In order to go with a brembo caliper, you would need to replace the rotors also which would make it a full Brembo GT kit.


Feel free to PM me for special pricing on all Brembo products.

what do you guys think?

brembo or rotora ?

Brembos............but I'm biased

So how do you like your Brembo kit?
BTW, it looks awesome!

-Hiro

Loving every second of it. You going to Milpitas tonight? I'll be there around 9ish when the Sonic crew rolls in.

Does anyone know if the brembo bbk will clear on our stock 17 inch c class wheels?

Nice!
I probably won't able to make it tonight. Might go next week.

don't know im wondering if they will clear my 18's as well

i was just told that the brembos wont fit the 4matic, sucks again.

So the brembos are not made for the 4matics. Thats a fact at this point but where can i find the answer to see if the AMG c63 brakes will fit the 4matics?

+2 I wonder how that would look with my Capri Blue???

Sorry to see Mercedes cheaping out on the calipers over the years.

In 2004 it was 4 piston AMG on the sport option

In 2005 they went to a 2 piston fixed

In 2008 they went to a 1 piston sliding with a stupid looking painted plate trying to fool those that are not in the know

It amazes me that as important the looks of the wheels, that manufactures pay little attention to the caliper looks unless you are spending $60,000+. This is especially important in today's wide open style wheels with thin spokes etc. It would ok if it was at least painted or powder coated (still does not give you the performance of a fixed caliper) but in my climate with the tons of salt on the road after 1 year you have this ugly rusty piece of iron peaking out through the wheels.

Mercedes is not the only culprit, BMW has these ugly sliding calipers on all their models except for the 135 with the M package where is it s 6 pot fixed those with the M3 don't even get it. Look at almost every Japanese car and you have these rusty hunks of iron.

I think we have to blame the bean counters trying to save every penny

however if you haven't noticed the stopping distance wasn't affected.

also BMW M has always used either 2 or sliding calipers on the M3 and M5 and they stopped nothing short of AMAZING.

True, but track a car and the difference is noticeable. Biggest problem an M3 has when you do some track lapping, the brakes turn to mush. No race car would use a float because they would be done in a couple of hot laps.
Disadvantages:
-Not as heat-resistant as fixed calipers
-loss of braking feel
-heavier unsprung weight (bulky cast iron vs machined alloy)

Advantages
-cheaper
-simpler to maintain EXCEPT for those that live in areas where salt is used then more attention must be paid to ensure the sliding pins are clean and lubed and the sliding plates that the pad rests on is clean and free and not bound up by the rusting of the casting below that will squeeze the pad not allowing it to slide properly
-less parts

Huh? How are calipers unsprung weight?

Same way wheels are. Kingpins, springs, shocks, A-arms, all contribute to the unsprung weight. If it has contact to the road before it contacts a spring, it's "unsprung".

Anyone hear anything about some bbks for the 4matic yet?

Don't get carried away, here. Shocks and a-arms are not unsprung weight since they are mounted to the body and I haven't seen a kingpin on a modern MB for a while.

From Wikipedia (not best source, but a starting point ... )
Kingpin:
The kingpin is the main pivot in the steering mechanism of a car or other vehicle. Originally this was literally a steel pin on which the moveable, steerable wheel was mounted to the suspension ... No longer restricted to moving like a pin, the part was not necessarily still called a king pin; but in newer designs, the term may be used not for an actual pin but the axis around which the steered wheels pivot.

Unsprung weight:
Unsprung weight includes the mass of components such as the wheel axles, wheel bearings, tires, and a portion of the weight of driveshafts, springs, shock absorbers, and suspension links. If the vehicle's brakes are mounted outboard (i.e., within the wheel), their weight is also part of the unsprung weight.


So, There's a LOT of unsprung weight on our cars ...

The photo (not a w204, but a modern Mercedes) shows the Kingpin as the area between the upper and lower arm that forms the axis on which the wheel rotates.

fyi

Does anyone know what the difference is between these two calipers posted by Azn300 and Poleposition





https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...4-dsc07477.jpg


Please open the above link for a larger picture of the red caliper, Thanks.

^ There is no difference, those are stock calipers just painted a different color.

There's clearly a difference in the way that the calipers look. My guess is that one is a picture from a C300 and the other from a C350. The C350 has larger brakes.

Believe you may be right...my C350 has calipers that look like the one in red.

I meant to say their OEM

On a separate note, does anyone know if the 6/4pot combi of the Brembo BBK will fit behind the 18" AMG 5-spoke rims? or would i need to go +1 on my rims ?

Thanks!