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Here she is... (C220 CDI Kombi)

 
Old 12-29-2008, 07:33 AM
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C220 CDI kombi - 163ps
Tenorite gray w/ black leather, AMG pack, Sportspack, Xenon, etc.
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C220 CDI kombi - 163ps
Tenorite gray w/ black leather, AMG pack, Sportspack, Xenon, etc.
Congratulations!

By the way, we have 170 PS
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:24 AM
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By the way, we have 170 PS
It's a "Belgian" version, 163ps is 15 fiscal hp: 1250 tax to register the car in Belgium. 170ps would mean that tax goes up to almost 2500!
163hp is 700 yearly tax and the 170ps 920. Not really worth it for those extra 7ps

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Seems wrong to pay tax based on power of engine...
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It's a "Belgian" version, 163ps is 15 fiscal hp: 1250 tax to register the car in Belgium. 170ps would mean that tax goes up to almost 2500!
163hp is 700 yearly tax and the 170ps 920. Not really worth it for those extra 7ps

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A friend of mine had an MB imported from Belgium and the data card had a rare "accessory code" listed. One of the few one would prefer not having, a few ps reduced power on the engine.

Thanks for this clarification on the tax system, I knew it must be some sort of a tax issue but I did not know these details. Odd that EU countries have so many different ways to tax cars.

By the way, is ECU remapping popular in Belgium? Are cars tested to have the factory power figures?
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By the way, is ECU remapping popular in Belgium? Are cars tested to have the factory power figures?
Belgian road law is a joke. You can't install Xenon if you don't have washers on the car. LOL, who ever uses them anyway they get the hood all dirty

They don't test the power figures And that's why remapping is so popular; as long as they can't see it on the MOT it's fine. But fyi it's illegal. But tuning companies are legal... Extra compressors/turbos or even tinting the windows is not allowed...
But if you import a car from let's say Germany with all that work done, it gets a stamp and a document and suddenly it's legal.

You should read the Belgian laws, you will **** your pants

Here's one, make sure you are seated properly when reading !!!
In the French part of Belgium, you have to pay a monthly tax "viewing and listening money" if you have a radio

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Originally Posted by ctgilles View Post
It's a "Belgian" version, 163ps is 15 fiscal hp: 1250 tax to register the car in Belgium. 170ps would mean that tax goes up to almost 2500!
163hp is 700 yearly tax and the 170ps 920. Not really worth it for those extra 7ps

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Not really. For a 220 CDI with 170 HP, the yearly tax is 366,43 Euros. For a 320 CDI, it goes up to 702,50 Euros.
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You have the C200 CDI, not the C220... FYI
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You have the C200 CDI, not the C220... FYI

Are you kidding, dont you think he know if he has a 200 or 220??

FYI a 200 has 136hp

This says the Belgium MB website for the 220

[163hp-170hp]/3.800 so you can chose.


And to the Belgium people, dont complain about that taxes! LOL we have the BPM here in the Netherlands so you pay 35000 for a C220cdi and we have to pay 42000 EUROOOO for the same car. And we pay WAY TAX every month



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Congrats with your car, looks nice a combo...
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You have the C200 CDI, not the C220... FYI
Oh well then MB ripped me off LOL The 200 CDI has 2 small endpipes and the 220 CDI 1 oval one.

OMG! Maybe I don't even have a C-class but only an A-class in disguise
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Not really. For a 220 CDI with 170 HP, the yearly tax is 366,43 Euros. For a 320 CDI, it goes up to 702,50 Euros.
That's not correct, you are quoting 11 fiscal hp (<100kW => C200 CDI 136hp) and 15 fiscal hp (<120kW => C220 CDI "tax version" 163hp). If you are put in 2 categories, you will always pay for the highest one.

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Normally would've had a C250 CDI but the order was already made when MB announced it That engine power and fuel economy is a miracle. Drove one and you barely need to shift, so much torques

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Belgian road law is a joke. You can't install Xenon if you don't have washers on the car. LOL, who ever uses them anyway they get the hood all dirty
First off all congrats on your new ride. Love the color

About the Xenon headlights....we have the same law problem, good to see we are not alone with that sort of problems
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MB are finally making models that are sportive and stylish. Finally an MB that's not for older people
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That's not correct, you are quoting 11 fiscal hp (<100kW => C200 CDI 136hp) and 15 fiscal hp (<120kW => C220 CDI "tax version" 163hp). If you are put in 2 categories, you will always pay for the highest one.

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Well according to this http://www.mon-assurance-auto.be/taxe-circulation-auto-belgique.html", only fiscal CVs are taken in account for the yearly circulation tax. Please fell free to correct me if I'm wrong though...

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I have always been an Audi A4 kombi fan, but since the W204
MB are finally making models that are sportive and stylish. Finally an MB that's not for older people
Agree completly. My only little complaint is that interior space is a bit limited when comparing it to my old Volvo V70. But you can't have everything...

Your photos also remind me to take some of mine since I never did because of laziness...

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Your link is correct. But strange... It's registered as a companycar anyway
The Belgian law is too complicated
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The kW values only come into play for BIV (registration tax), there the rule is indeed fiscal hp or kW, whatever is the highest. Annual road taxes are based purely on fiscal hp.

Great car by the way .
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I think it's awful, really not my style. But everyone has another taste so good luck with it and nobody needs to like it except for you
Now doesn't that make you look silly? It really shows people here what kind of person you are! Everyone is entitled to their own taste right?

I'll be with the grown ups now, let me know if I need to change your diaper

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You are exactly correct, it's my opinion that your car is ridiculous and and all that matter is that you like it. Eye for any eye? 6 year old? don't think so, whats the problem? touchy touchy
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You are exactly correct, it's my opinion that your car is ridiculous and and all that matter is that you like it. Eye for any eye? 6 year old? don't think so, whats the problem? touchy touchy
No not touchy touchy, but when I read those replies I can't help but reply. Therefore my reply (to your reply) was well structured and argumented. It more then proves my case.

Anyone reading your reply will have the same feeling

And kombis are not to everyone's taste, I guess that's why MBUSA don't import them to your country.

I'll be watching your reply down here because I just know that you'll be wanting the last word in this minor argument of tastes Or not because I already predicted it?? Or maybe you will reply with another heavy denial??

It doesn't matter let's just agree to disagree Have a great weekend

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