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Old 01-24-2012, 06:59 PM
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Well everyone has a bad experience about something...When an item is mass produced, there are bound to be flaws that will slip through the cracks. Ive never had any problems with FRAM, and they have a great warranty to back it up, though next oil change i wil prob put an oem filter in so i dont have to change the fram one every 3k miles.
My issue had nothing to do production in mass quantities, it was a design flaw. Big difference. And as I posted, another guy confirmed a similar Fram failure.

Is there a MB spec for filters? Should be as there is one for oil. Related MB links:

MB on M1 0W-40 oil

MB on Fleece Oil Filters

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Either way, design flaw or bad QC, there will be problems with just about anything new to the market. The C300 is far from a perfect engineered machine. It has many design flaws itself, but what doesnt have design flaws? Im not a FRAM salesman, just stating that I as well as millions of others have used FRAM with no problems.
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I havent been able to find an approved list of filters, not sure if that exists.
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5.49/qt Mobil 1 0w40 at oreillys auto parts
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5.49/qt Mobil 1 0w40 at oreillys auto parts
And if you have the O'Reilly store flyer with you (you can download it from their website), most other auto part stores should be able to price match it.
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I,m confused (not unusual). My 2008 C300 requires 8.5 quarts of 0W-40 and I know recommends Mobil 1 synthetic, because of the label on the fan shroud,but I am not sure if it requires synthetic. I have always used Mobil 1 Synthetic because I am a merchandisers dream- if it cost more, it should be better. I wonder if I changed oil and filter every 3 months if there would be any problem, but since I am the type of guy who wears a belt and suspenders (braces to out European friends) I go for the Mobil 1. Any comments, insights and recommendations are very welcome.
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I don't know if this has already been covered, but at www.amgmarket.com a full listing of approved oils is available.
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I,m confused (not unusual). My 2008 C300 requires 8.5 quarts
The 4-matic version actually only takes 7.4 quarts. We've discussed this earlier in this thread. Go back to post #145 in this thread and start reading from there.

of 0W-40 and I know recommends Mobil 1 synthetic, because of the label on the fan shroud,but I am not sure if it requires synthetic.
Your car calls for an oil meeting MB 229.5 spec. It does not have to be Mobil1 specifically as there are other oils available that meet this spec, but all of them are synthetic. If your car is still under warranty (original or extended), you should certainly adhere to this spec, regardless how often you change it.

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I don't know if this has already been covered, but at www.amgmarket.com a full listing of approved oils is available.
Or straight from the horse's mouth:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html

Granted, many of these oils aren't easily available in the US.
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Thank you for sharing that.
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Nice find on that Mobile 1 oil.

Thanks!!!!
Not a problem, Jim

And as Pete has already confirmed, I did check it today and it is indeed good through 2/14.

Picked up 2 cases (12 Quarts), went to pay, guy says: "$114.71" (that would be 12 @ $8.79 ea. regular price). It took him a few minutes to figure out why it comes up that way and how to change it!

So word of caution, it may not be coming up on sale, it is in their current advertisement.

I'll just leave this here (note the promo date at the top):

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My nearest O'Riley's only had two cases when I went by there this past Wednesday and I got both of those. Since I need 8.5 quarts per oil change, I'll go back today for the remaining 5 quarts for the complete 17 quarts needed for two changes.

Then try to stay on top of it so that I won't have to pay full retail as I did the last two oil changes.

In this market, O'Riley usually has the Mobile 1 0-40 at $8.49 a quart. So saving $25.50 per oil change.

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I am going to buy the larger extractor that holds 8.8 liters since my torn rotator cuff and other assorted physical limitations ( no "poor guy"s please) the mity vac is very attractive. Thank you all for your kind answers and rest assured they are appreciated.
Buy the MityVac 7201 & you will never regret it.
I did my first 4Matic change with it today (after numerous on other cars prior).

So much easier & what's more to save money, the several rubber connectors that connects the tubes actually fits the dipstick tube opening perfectly & seals it perfectly extract oil thru the dipstick tube exactly the way MB wants it to be done!

So I ended up getting the fluidvacuator connector reallyu for no reason since the rubber connectors are far easier to remove from the opening.

btw - my GLK's actually came out with about 7 qts on its original factory fill. Glad to know they didn't over fill it.

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Buy the MityVac 7401 & you will never regret it.
I did my first 4Matic change with it today (after numerous on other cars prior.
I think you mean either the 7400 or 7201. I looked on their site and they don't seem to have the one mentioned on their list. Either way, the 7400 model doesn't have enough capacity for his RWD which takes 8.5QT while the 7400 only has enough space for 7.6QT.


I did my oil change today doing the drain method. I was only able to get 8QT out. This is after leaving the oil to drain for an hour which should have been enough time Probably was because the car was on jack stands so it was angled not letting the rest out I don't know. I'll see if I can do better the next time. I do 6,500k intervals instead of the 10-13k since I'm out of warranty.
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I think you mean either the 7400 or 7201. I looked on their site and they don't seem to have the one mentioned on their list. Either way, the 7400 model doesn't have enough capacity for his RWD which takes 8.5QT while the 7400 only has enough space for 7.6QT.
Yes - you are correct. S/B the 7201 (8.8L).
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i have the 7400 because it is so much cheaper, especially with free shipping, and yes, i know A Mercedes owner is not supposed to cheap out, but stopping and emptying it half way doesn't seem to be a big deal- keeping in mind i have not done this yet and may eat my words.
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keeping in mind i have not done this yet and may eat my words.
It's doable, assuming you've got another larger container which can hold 8-9qt and which can be conveniently transported to the disposal site (auto part store or walmart).

My personal experience with the 7400 was not that great. The seals inside broke within a few years and it was not repairable. I've got a Pela 14K one now, but I've only had it for a little over a year now, so I can't comment on its long term reliability.
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How doyou like it so far/ Can you give me the name and model number, maybe I will get annoyed enough with the 7400 to follow your example. Nothing like experience, except there is not summer school.
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How doyou like it so far/ Can you give me the name and model number, maybe I will get annoyed enough with the 7400 to follow your example.
Pela 14K is the model number.

Can't really say much about it other than it works and that it holds almost 15 quarts. It's also twice the price of Mityvac 7400, unfortunately.
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thank you. Playing in Mercedesland is not cheap- but you do get quality. Kind of like Disneyland, where the last time I was there 20 years ago a hot dog was $3, a lot of money for the time,but it was a great hot dog. You want to play, you got to pay.
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just finished my oil change yesterday used the mityvac 7400 emptyed once and kept on going no problem! used mobil 1 0w-40 and MANN filter! but i was wondering what are the two extra seals the come with the oil filter for i coul onli find 3 seals on the oil filter housing the one by the screw area and the two at the bottom of the assembly but not any more than that! anybody has an answer to this??
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Originally Posted by c350lipstik
just finished my oil change yesterday used the mityvac 7400 emptyed once and kept on going no problem! used mobil 1 0w-40 and MANN filter! but i was wondering what are the two extra seals the come with the oil filter for i coul onli find 3 seals on the oil filter housing the one by the screw area and the two at the bottom of the assembly but not any more than that! anybody has an answer to this??
The filter is used for other Mercedes as well which require the other o-rings that came with the package.
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I have used my mityvac for DIY oil changes, did 5 oil changes (between our two w204 and our r230 sl 500). Worked great and held all the oil. At first I used to reverse it and pump it back into the used/empty containers. But I have no just decided to use 2 old laundry detergent bottles since it is much easier and cleaner. The messiest part was dispensing the oil from the mityvac, lmao.

However, now I just get the pre-paid maintenance, you can't beat it. For 2 years it is $219 on a lease ($9 per month) and it covers brake fluid change, cabin filter change, oil changes and anything in between. That is less than what it would cost is parts to DIY...
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Originally Posted by Pete7874
Pela 14K is the model number.

Can't really say much about it other than it works and that it holds almost 15 quarts. It's also twice the price of Mityvac 7400, unfortunately.
It looks like it's very well built [ and could be used to spray pesticides ] :

Pela 14K + Others

Also shown is the 8.8L Mitivac 7201 (with side tube). Click on that and you will also see NYCA's little pump on a tank, off to the right of page.

IMHO, the 7201 has the edge, as a tube-to-tube rubber coupling and be squeezed into the top of the dipstick tube, and oil can be drawn from there, just like the dealers, and it works on the 4MATIC's which will not allow a tube to be fully inserted. -- Note that other places sell it cheaper --

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Changed my oil this weekend using the Mytivac 7201. Easy peezzy. The only PIA was getting the oil filter cap off. I couldn't find a proper wrench that fit without slipping. Ended up using a monkey wrench with a cloth over it to avoid damage. :/


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