Oil change interval
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Oil change interval
I'm not a big fan of how MB writes their service manual, more confusing than anything if you ask me. Would just like to confirm that an 09 C300 would have an oil change interval of 20,000 km and one of the oils of choice would be Mobil 1 0W40 European car formula. Also did not see anything on break in oil, I presently have 5,000 km and would normally do a break in oil change at this time. Comments?
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I'm not a big fan of how MB writes their service manual, more confusing than anything if you ask me. Would just like to confirm that an 09 C300 would have an oil change interval of 20,000 km and one of the oils of choice would be Mobil 1 0W40 European car formula. Also did not see anything on break in oil, I presently have 5,000 km and would normally do a break in oil change at this time. Comments?
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No break in oil used - Use only oils with MB 229.5 approval. Use only Mann + Hummel "fleece" oil filter. 13,000 mile or 20,000 Km oil changes are fine. These cars have excellent filtration & large sumps. Mobil 1 0W-40 Euro formulation is an example of such products. Be careful - other Mobil 1s do not meet MB HTHS requirements (High Temperature High Shear)
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I'm not a big fan of how MB writes their service manual, more confusing than anything if you ask me. Would just like to confirm that an 09 C300 would have an oil change interval of 20,000 km and one of the oils of choice would be Mobil 1 0W40 European car formula. Also did not see anything on break in oil, I presently have 5,000 km and would normally do a break in oil change at this time. Comments?
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Personaly, I would just wait the 20K before the oil change unless its been parked for along time.
Not to get off topic, a question was asked about why Mb sucks oil out from the top rather then drain from the bottom. Iv discussed this with 3 techs. They all told me its the best way, better then draining from the bottom. They bottom of the pan has a 1/4" lip that actualy prevents all the old oil form draining. The suction of the oil is sealed and it actually suckes the oil from the cylinders and all parts due to the vaccuum presure that is created.
Not to get off topic, a question was asked about why Mb sucks oil out from the top rather then drain from the bottom. Iv discussed this with 3 techs. They all told me its the best way, better then draining from the bottom. They bottom of the pan has a 1/4" lip that actualy prevents all the old oil form draining. The suction of the oil is sealed and it actually suckes the oil from the cylinders and all parts due to the vaccuum presure that is created.
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Personaly, I would just wait the 20K before the oil change unless its been parked for along time.
Not to get off topic, a question was asked about why Mb sucks oil out from the top rather then drain from the bottom. Iv discussed this with 3 techs. They all told me its the best way, better then draining from the bottom. They bottom of the pan has a 1/4" lip that actualy prevents all the old oil form draining. The suction of the oil is sealed and it actually suckes the oil from the cylinders and all parts due to the vaccuum presure that is created.
Not to get off topic, a question was asked about why Mb sucks oil out from the top rather then drain from the bottom. Iv discussed this with 3 techs. They all told me its the best way, better then draining from the bottom. They bottom of the pan has a 1/4" lip that actualy prevents all the old oil form draining. The suction of the oil is sealed and it actually suckes the oil from the cylinders and all parts due to the vaccuum presure that is created.
There are people in both camps (suck and drain) but I think the biggest advantage to suction is the ease of performing the change.
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Suck better than drain. Suck fully warmed up.
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When i bought my car .. it was showing 15000kms in ASSYST PLUS and its decreasing in proportion with the milage increase. How does the computer/engine decides whether its 15000kms or 20000kms. MB says it depends on the driving style but that also is not making any difference ...
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So your car is set at max 15,000Km. If you drive it unreasonably it will Auto reduce that distance. Most vehicles will make the 15,000Km. Driving gently will not increase the drain above 15,000Km
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America is one of the few markets that is 20,000 Km drain. Anything MB consider to be a torrid zone like Dubai & South Africa & frankly most of ROW is 15,000 Km drain & the Assyst is flashed with 15,000Km
So your car is set at max 15,000Km. If you drive it unreasonably it will Auto reduce that distance. Most vehicles will make the 15,000Km. Driving gently will not increase the drain above 15,000Km
So your car is set at max 15,000Km. If you drive it unreasonably it will Auto reduce that distance. Most vehicles will make the 15,000Km. Driving gently will not increase the drain above 15,000Km
So I'll need to change my oil every 6,000 miles, not 12,000 while in Tanzania? Should I stick with the 0w40 or? Thanks
Sorry guys for posting in a wrong area, this was for a W203.
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America is one of the few markets that is 20,000 Km drain. Anything MB consider to be a torrid zone like Dubai & South Africa & frankly most of ROW is 15,000 Km drain & the Assyst is flashed with 15,000Km
So your car is set at max 15,000Km. If you drive it unreasonably it will Auto reduce that distance. Most vehicles will make the 15,000Km. Driving gently will not increase the drain above 15,000Km
So your car is set at max 15,000Km. If you drive it unreasonably it will Auto reduce that distance. Most vehicles will make the 15,000Km. Driving gently will not increase the drain above 15,000Km
But your comment about the ROW is not accurate, my car shows 25 000 km after service and FSS gave me last time a bit more than 30 000 km service interval. This was on a W221 though.
Perhaps the dealers are not using long life oil or do not program the service counter for long life oil. Then it gives a shorter service interval.
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I'm afraid the flexible service interval has been switched off if gentle driving doesn't give additional miles (or vice versa). I understood US has it turned off these days.
But your comment about the ROW is not accurate, my car shows 25 000 km after service and FSS gave me last time a bit more than 30 000 km service interval. This was on a W221 though.
Perhaps the dealers are not using long life oil or do not program the service counter for long life oil. Then it gives a shorter service interval.
But your comment about the ROW is not accurate, my car shows 25 000 km after service and FSS gave me last time a bit more than 30 000 km service interval. This was on a W221 though.
Perhaps the dealers are not using long life oil or do not program the service counter for long life oil. Then it gives a shorter service interval.
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In Tanzania your start point for changing would be 9000 miles with fleece filter. If you find that silica levels in the oil are rising above acceptable levels of 12 - 15ppm, then I would drop to 6000 miles. You are going to have to watch your air filtration as well in East Africa - high dust levels.
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The simplest way to detect if flexible service interval is active is to follow the miles to next service figure, if it counts equally to the odometer, then the flexible interval is not used.
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Please note that in markets where Benz has mapped the FSS differently they do not want you to exceed 15,000 Km drain interval on petrol engines so there is no point in changing it. Your dealer will likely refuse.
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You already answered your question.
Personaly, I would just wait the 20K before the oil change unless its been parked for along time.
Not to get off topic, a question was asked about why Mb sucks oil out from the top rather then drain from the bottom. Iv discussed this with 3 techs. They all told me its the best way, better then draining from the bottom. They bottom of the pan has a 1/4" lip that actualy prevents all the old oil form draining. The suction of the oil is sealed and it actually suckes the oil from the cylinders and all parts due to the vaccuum presure that is created.
Not to get off topic, a question was asked about why Mb sucks oil out from the top rather then drain from the bottom. Iv discussed this with 3 techs. They all told me its the best way, better then draining from the bottom. They bottom of the pan has a 1/4" lip that actualy prevents all the old oil form draining. The suction of the oil is sealed and it actually suckes the oil from the cylinders and all parts due to the vaccuum presure that is created.
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You already answered your question. "Due to the vacuum pressure" it creates. Less old oil and residue is left in your engine. Yes, less old oil and residue is left behind on your engine's moving parts. I think that a good thing. Because once you refill your engine with new oil, the moment your car starts everything is instantly lubricated at that point. There is no lag time for your oil lubrication.
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