"Sport" Button
04-09-2009, 10:25 PM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Davenport IA
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C350
"Sport" Button
I'm talking about the sport button that is supposed to change your suspension settings...does it work well? Like, is there a noticeable difference?
04-10-2009, 01:25 AM
#2
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
w204 c230
I think you are talking about the Advance Agility Package. And yes it has a very noticeable difference. In "S" mode, most of the time RPM is maintained above 2000rpm, kickdown is faster, steering is 10% more direct. As for suspension, my personal feel is that, in "C" mode it is very much softer and comfortable for family ride, in "S" mode, it is like the standard Avantgarde (which i think is the Sport in US) suspension setting.
04-10-2009, 03:27 AM
#3
Senior Member
i never noticed a change in the suspension???? i see a difference in the engines performance, as far as higher rpms and changing of the gears. unfortunately, i do not think drivers in the states, actually notice a difference b cuz of speed limits. but on the autobahn i really can get it in, lol.
04-10-2009, 03:47 AM
#4
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
w204 c230
i never noticed a change in the suspension???? i see a difference in the engines performance, as far as higher rpms and changing of the gears. unfortunately, i do not think drivers in the states, actually notice a difference b cuz of speed limits. but on the autobahn i really can get it in, lol.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21176250@N03/3428635684/
04-10-2009, 04:00 AM
#5
Super Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Belgium
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
S204 C220 CDI, VW Scirocco III 1.4TSI 160
Stiffens up the damping, but also gets the gearbox into S and I wish it didn't do that. So I never use it 
04-10-2009, 04:00 AM
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C180K 2011 COMAND, AMG, Dynamic Xenon, Business Pack, H&K Audio and +
Advanace agility package does change the suspension. It makes it much stiffer and also the gear change ratio is affected. The kick down and upshifts are faster. Considerbly less lag when upshifting and down shiffting.
The "sports" button is placed in the dash console under the memory card slot.
The "sports" button is placed in the dash console under the memory card slot.
04-10-2009, 07:32 AM
#7
Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
2011 E550 Coupe
I have a question, I have a 2009 C300 4Matic sport model automatic and it does not have that button below the memory card. It does however have it beside the shifter, was the button moved on 09's. I know it's supposed to adjust the shift points, not sure if it also affects suspension.
Trending Topics
04-10-2009, 08:16 AM
#8
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
w204 c230
If you have the "S/C/M" button (W204 with steering paddle shift) or "S/C" button (W204 without paddle shift), near to the gear shifter, then you don't have the Advanced Agility Package. Without AAP, only shift poinst are altered and not suspension setting.
As mentioned, for W204 with AAP, the "S/C" button is below PCMCIA card slot. W204 with AAP plus paddle shift, the bottom button next to shifter is marked with "M" for activating manual shifting using the paddle shift.
As mentioned, for W204 with AAP, the "S/C" button is below PCMCIA card slot. W204 with AAP plus paddle shift, the bottom button next to shifter is marked with "M" for activating manual shifting using the paddle shift.
Last edited by duboisi; 04-10-2009 at 08:22 AM.
04-10-2009, 12:54 PM
#10
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Davenport IA
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C350
Are we talking about Advanced Agility Package with this button?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21176250@N03/3428635684/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21176250@N03/3428635684/
04-10-2009, 12:56 PM
#11
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Davenport IA
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C350
great! sounds like its not just a gimmick!
we get it here in Canada with the sport package...
we have smooth roads around here, so it'll be good for when i want to let some anger out
we get it here in Canada with the sport package...
we have smooth roads around here, so it'll be good for when i want to let some anger out
Last edited by len56; 04-10-2009 at 01:11 PM.
04-10-2009, 03:02 PM
#12
Super Member
Yes
Yes, if I drive on smooth road in C, I can feel the ripples in road when S-Mode was activated. It feels it is faster when I activated when stopped, but I maybe wrong, as apposed to on the go.
You can keep the softness of C-Mode, by using the paddles or gearshift.
It will go to M-Mode without stiffening the suspension. read up about using M-Mode and getting out of it again.
I find driving the B170 in M-mode works much better when many uphills and downhill roads in front of you. I can anticipate the hill better than full automatic.At most I go down two gears, sometimes 3 to maintain speed and not going over 4000RPM, flat rode I just go out of M, or keep it 7th at 2000RPM, no strong headwind. With the C350 I rarely use it, just the right paddle to make sure its running in 7th, not 6th.
The manual says to use C-Mode for autobann driving.
04-10-2009, 06:48 PM
#14
Super Moderator
The Advanced Agility Control is fantastic.
Some on this thread are confusing it with the standard autobox profile control.
Some on this thread are confusing it with the standard autobox profile control.
04-10-2009, 06:58 PM
#15
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Davenport IA
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C350
As others have said about Advanced Agility Control or Active Control...
Yes, if I drive on smooth road in C, I can feel the ripples in road when S-Mode was activated. It feels it is faster when I activated when stopped, but I maybe wrong, as apposed to on the go.
You can keep the softness of C-Mode, by using the paddles or gearshift.
It will go to M-Mode without stiffening the suspension. read up about using M-Mode and getting out of it again.
I find driving the B170 in M-mode works much better when many uphills and downhill roads in front of you. I can anticipate the hill better than full automatic.At most I go down two gears, sometimes 3 to maintain speed and not going over 4000RPM, flat rode I just go out of M, or keep it 7th at 2000RPM, no strong headwind. With the C350 I rarely use it, just the right paddle to make sure its running in 7th, not 6th.
The manual says to use C-Mode for autobann driving.
Yes, if I drive on smooth road in C, I can feel the ripples in road when S-Mode was activated. It feels it is faster when I activated when stopped, but I maybe wrong, as apposed to on the go.
You can keep the softness of C-Mode, by using the paddles or gearshift.
It will go to M-Mode without stiffening the suspension. read up about using M-Mode and getting out of it again.
I find driving the B170 in M-mode works much better when many uphills and downhill roads in front of you. I can anticipate the hill better than full automatic.At most I go down two gears, sometimes 3 to maintain speed and not going over 4000RPM, flat rode I just go out of M, or keep it 7th at 2000RPM, no strong headwind. With the C350 I rarely use it, just the right paddle to make sure its running in 7th, not 6th.
The manual says to use C-Mode for autobann driving.
So, I'm driving in C, and if i press the Sport button, it puts the car into S. I can then put it into M by hitting the paddles, or the C>S>M button by the stick, and the Sport Suspension will stay on? (just wondering if I got it right)
And if I'm driving in C, then I hit the paddles or the C>S>M button with the Sport button OFF, the suspension will stay smooth? (also wondering if I got that right)
thanks!
Last edited by len56; 04-10-2009 at 07:04 PM.
04-10-2009, 09:17 PM
#16
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,078
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
2012 C300 4Matic
Thanks for the detail!
So, I'm driving in C, and if i press the Sport button, it puts the car into S. I can then put it into M by hitting the paddles, or the C>S>M button by the stick, and the Sport Suspension will stay on? (just wondering if I got it right)
And if I'm driving in C, then I hit the paddles or the C>S>M button with the Sport button OFF, the suspension will stay smooth? (also wondering if I got that right)
thanks!
So, I'm driving in C, and if i press the Sport button, it puts the car into S. I can then put it into M by hitting the paddles, or the C>S>M button by the stick, and the Sport Suspension will stay on? (just wondering if I got it right)
And if I'm driving in C, then I hit the paddles or the C>S>M button with the Sport button OFF, the suspension will stay smooth? (also wondering if I got that right)
thanks!
04-11-2009, 01:47 AM
#17
Member
all the info you need
all C - Class come with agility control. Advance agility is that "sport button" in the dash next to the parktronic.
AGILITY CONTROL
AGILITY CONTROL - How does it do it
ADVANCED AGILITY
all C - Class come with agility control. Advance agility is that "sport button" in the dash next to the parktronic.
AGILITY CONTROL
Code:
AGILITY CONTROL suspension with selective damping system The AGILITY CONTROL suspension with selective damping system, specified as standard, raises the bar for ride comfort in this segment: Combination of selective and passive damping system Integral valve which reduces the damping force automatically in the event of weaker shocks The system works like normal shock absorbers in the event of stronger shocks In the event of heavier impacts, the level of damping provided by the system increases significantly, which, in turn, helps to stabilise the entire vehicle
Code:
Operation. The AGILITY CONTROL suspension combines the advantages of a selective damping system with those of a passive damping system. The conventional comfort-oriented spring/damper system is augmented by a stroke-dependent damping system (standard equipment). The function module in this selective damping system consists of an elastomer piston which offers the oil flow a bypass in addition to the conventional damper arrangement in the event of weaker shocks. This reduces the level of damping in the range between +/- 10 mm and significantly reduces road roar and tyre vibration as well as substantially improving the chassis' tyre/road contact characteristics without compromising on active safety. In the event of heavier impacts on the chassis, the selective damping function activates the full damping effect.
Code:
Enhanced driving pleasure at the push of a button: ADVANCED AGILITY package with special sports mode (optional extra) While the suspension adjusts to the road in the standard-fit AGILITY CONTROL, the new ADVANCED AGILITY package with special sports mode (optional extra) can also respond to the driver's mood. At the push of a button the driver can vary the vehicle characteristics between a comfortable and sporty set-up. The following parameters can be influenced: Continuously variable damping Speed-sensitive power steering with variable centring and more direct steering ratio ESP?/ASR (traction) Accelerator response Speed of automatic gear changes
04-11-2009, 06:57 AM
#18
Super Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Belgium
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
S204 C220 CDI, VW Scirocco III 1.4TSI 160
Just too bad I have to put the gearbox in M, the shifting on this 5 spd auto box is not good. Why oh why no 7G on the 220 CDIs??? 
Not quite. In COMFORT SUSPENSION, you can only choose between C or M shifting. In SPORT (AAC), you can choose S or M. So no C shifting in SPORT (AAC) and no S shifting in COMFORT SUSPENSION.
That's why I don't like it that much... I like a firm ride and with AAC on a smooth road: WHOA! But I thought it just controlled the shocks, I still want C-driving with S-suspension!
Thanks for the detail!
So, I'm driving in C, and if i press the Sport button, it puts the car into S. I can then put it into M by hitting the paddles, or the C>S>M button by the stick, and the Sport Suspension will stay on? (just wondering if I got it right)
And if I'm driving in C, then I hit the paddles or the C>S>M button with the Sport button OFF, the suspension will stay smooth? (also wondering if I got that right)
thanks!
So, I'm driving in C, and if i press the Sport button, it puts the car into S. I can then put it into M by hitting the paddles, or the C>S>M button by the stick, and the Sport Suspension will stay on? (just wondering if I got it right)
And if I'm driving in C, then I hit the paddles or the C>S>M button with the Sport button OFF, the suspension will stay smooth? (also wondering if I got that right)
thanks!
That's why I don't like it that much... I like a firm ride and with AAC on a smooth road: WHOA! But I thought it just controlled the shocks, I still want C-driving with S-suspension!
Last edited by ctgilles; 04-11-2009 at 07:01 AM.
04-11-2009, 11:31 AM
#19
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Davenport IA
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C350
This is ridiculously complicated xD
What if I'm just driving along in C, sport OFF , and I hit the C>S>M button.
Will it turn the sport suspension on, or skip to M? (because it should only switch to S, if it follows the order on the button :P)
What if I'm just driving along in C, sport OFF , and I hit the C>S>M button.
Will it turn the sport suspension on, or skip to M? (because it should only switch to S, if it follows the order on the button :P)
Last edited by len56; 04-11-2009 at 02:33 PM.
04-11-2009, 02:20 PM
#20
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,078
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
2012 C300 4Matic
04-11-2009, 06:37 PM
#21
Super Moderator
Agility control is a passive system.
Advanced agility control is an active system & works a lot better. The dampers are actively controlled
Advanced Agility control gives you the sport selection on the dash AND your normal gearbox profiling to a degree.
I have the W204 design DVD in my possession - wish I could post it.
Advanced agility control is an active system & works a lot better. The dampers are actively controlled
Advanced Agility control gives you the sport selection on the dash AND your normal gearbox profiling to a degree.
I have the W204 design DVD in my possession - wish I could post it.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 04-11-2009 at 06:39 PM.
04-11-2009, 07:21 PM
#22
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Davenport IA
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
C350
Agility control is a passive system.
Advanced agility control is an active system & works a lot better. The dampers are actively controlled
Advanced Agility control gives you the sport selection on the dash AND your normal gearbox profiling to a degree.
I have the W204 design DVD in my possession - wish I could post it.
Advanced agility control is an active system & works a lot better. The dampers are actively controlled
Advanced Agility control gives you the sport selection on the dash AND your normal gearbox profiling to a degree.
I have the W204 design DVD in my possession - wish I could post it.
04-11-2009, 09:50 PM
#23
Super Moderator
Benz handed them out to the motoring press & good customers in South Africa. Very good production if you want to fully understand everything that went into the W204 after they let their customers endurance test the W203. It also covers every available option in detail & how they work. It runs for hours - even has a full accessory catalogue - every wheel option available globally etc.
04-12-2009, 12:12 AM
#24
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
5 Posts
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
How true
[QUOTE) ...big snip...they let their customers endurance test the W203. [/QUOTE]
I don't think you realize how true this was.
Buyers of early W203s WERE MBs test drivers since it was clear that damned little testing was done before releasing the cars to the buyers. It's not a exaggeration to say that my '01 C320 was in the MB shop 8-9 times annually for warranty repairs for the entire 7.5 years I drove it. And this was the norm.
Which makes my C300 a Mercedes miracle with almost NO problems in the 1.5 years I've owned it. I still can't believe it.
I don't think you realize how true this was.
Buyers of early W203s WERE MBs test drivers since it was clear that damned little testing was done before releasing the cars to the buyers. It's not a exaggeration to say that my '01 C320 was in the MB shop 8-9 times annually for warranty repairs for the entire 7.5 years I drove it. And this was the norm.
Which makes my C300 a Mercedes miracle with almost NO problems in the 1.5 years I've owned it. I still can't believe it.
