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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Improved shifting/acceleration

Tried to go to work this morning and my battery was dead. I guess a didn't completely turn off the lights last night.
I was beyond angry when I figured out that I couldn't back my car out of the garage to jump start off of my truck. I guess it's a Mercedes thing?
Anyway. When I finally got my car started I noticed the shifting was smoother and the lag appears to be gone. Maybe it's my imagination but I am very aware of how my car performs, and I truly believe there is a VERY noticeable difference. Does complete electrical failure reset EVERYTHING? I know we can do the throttle reset, but this feels different than that. I know in my old Toyota, if I disconnected the negative and positive connections at the battery and left them off for at least an hour, it would reset the ECU.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Interesting... Well if it resets the ECU, sucks for people with ECU tunes.

So the lag you're talking about, is it the lag where when you step and the gas hard you have to wait a second for it to start pulling? That's gone? Wow.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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You might invest in a small trickle-charge device that has a 12 v output. I have one that I can use to start the car while still in the garage. Has come in handy in the past when a car's battery decided to die (5 years old, dead cell, cold weather). These devices aren't very expensive and are safer than trying to jump start from another vehicle.

As to resetting the ECU, I doubt that. Most likely there's some dynamic RAM that lost charge and went blank. The ECU is most probably EPROM and won't be affected by a loss of power.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Well in my case, I've been driving in C for a period of time and a few days ago when i switched back to S the car seems to be alot more responsive and the throttle lag problem seems to be gone. Might be my imagination no?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:45 AM
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I read somewhere possibly the manual) that the car "learns" your driving habits. So maybe when everything reset, it went back to a 0 learning stage hence everythings seems more responsive. I may also be talking alot of crap!
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:53 AM
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I don't know if the TCU has volatile memory but you might have ended up with a TCU back at it's default settings. If the car steadily goes back to it's old ways you will know you managed to wipe the TCU of it's learnings.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:27 AM
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because the ecu and tcu will reset after the battery drain.

fuel map tune overwrites the original map. ecu reset will not affect the tune.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:44 AM
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There you go - back to default. Now it will learn it's bad habits again. It's been said many times. I wish we could switch between a few standard defaults & learning.
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
There you go - back to default. Now it will learn it's bad habits again. It's been said many times. I wish we could switch between a few standard defaults & learning.
I think comfort mode and sport mode keeps a separate loop of learning pattern.

reason for suspect is because my mom & pop tend to drive in comfort mode when they drive the 204 and I haven't notice it affecting my sport mode throttle pattern.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:30 AM
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can one reset this learning (not by unplugging battery)- I mean if I want a sportier accelration, the car will have to re-learn or do I have to continue driving with a heavy accelrator so I can have quicker responses/acceleration?
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can one reset this learning (not by unplugging battery)- I mean if I want a sportier accelration, the car will have to re-learn or do I have to continue driving with a heavy accelrator so I can have quicker responses/acceleration?
yes.

search throttle reset in w203 forum. same deal.
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