Sylvania H7SU vs. HID
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Thanks! Looks like the low beams and fogs are still a bit yellow, hard to tell how much compared to stock. But, I did read that the CV Ultras are a bit more yellow than the regular CVs. Are you happy with them?
I ordered the Luminics Krypton Titanium White. I will post pics as soon as I have them installed.
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I just put in the crystalvisions in my fogs, and I will do the low beams later. I turned them on inside my garage during the day, so I don't know if I can really tell if there is any yellow or not. There might be just a hint of yellow. I'll have to see tonight after I put in the low beams.
jlb0125, how well do your crystalvisions match with your AZN_Optics LEDs?
jlb0125, how well do your crystalvisions match with your AZN_Optics LEDs?
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Anyone try to Crystal Vision 5000K yet...I would be afraid they would have to filter out too much output to get 5000K.
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This is what I was looking at. Don't see the Diamond Visions.
http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_e...30&id=&lang=en
http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_e...30&id=&lang=en
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ARGH! So I got my Luminics Krypton Series Titanium White bulbs today and gave them a try. They claim 55W with 130W output which really makes no sense since brightness should be measured in lumens, wattage really is meaningless.
So, my impressions.... A- for color, C- for brightness/driving visibility.
The bulb is bigger, packaging says 30% bigger and it claims 30% brighter. These are supposed to be 5500K color. I think the problem is filtering to get the whiter/bluer color from a halogen cuts out too much of the brightness for driving visibility.
So from a cosmetic standpoint, looking at these from outside the car, they look great, almost like xenons, but from inside the car, they aren't bright enough to the point that they may be unsafe in poorly lit areas.
Pictures attached.
My next question will be to the people with HID kits in their low beams, how did things work out putting the HIDs shining through lens designed for halogens? Is the focal point totally off? Do these blind oncoming drivers? These have no beam cutoff like stock HID, so I'd think these would also look good from a brightness standpoint but the beam could be all over the place. True?
Stock is the photo on the left, Luminics is the photo on the right.
So, my impressions.... A- for color, C- for brightness/driving visibility.
The bulb is bigger, packaging says 30% bigger and it claims 30% brighter. These are supposed to be 5500K color. I think the problem is filtering to get the whiter/bluer color from a halogen cuts out too much of the brightness for driving visibility.
So from a cosmetic standpoint, looking at these from outside the car, they look great, almost like xenons, but from inside the car, they aren't bright enough to the point that they may be unsafe in poorly lit areas.
Pictures attached.
My next question will be to the people with HID kits in their low beams, how did things work out putting the HIDs shining through lens designed for halogens? Is the focal point totally off? Do these blind oncoming drivers? These have no beam cutoff like stock HID, so I'd think these would also look good from a brightness standpoint but the beam could be all over the place. True?
Stock is the photo on the left, Luminics is the photo on the right.
Last edited by lkevinl; Aug 5, 2010 at 04:15 AM. Reason: more detail
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Try getting the same bulb for the fogs as well. Turn both lows and fogs up and you'll be fine. I was in your position before so I know how exactly you feel. The colour was there but it lacks a little brightness. By switching out my fogs as well it turned out just the way I wanted.
ARGH! So I got my Luminics Krypton Series Titanium White bulbs today and gave them a try. They claim 55W with 130W output which really makes no sense since brightness should be measured in lumens, wattage really is meaningless.
So, my impressions.... A- for color, C- for brightness/driving visibility.
The bulb is bigger, packaging says 30% bigger and it claims 30% brighter. These are supposed to be 5500K color. I think the problem is filtering to get the whiter/bluer color from a halogen cuts out too much of the brightness for driving visibility.
So from a cosmetic standpoint, looking at these from outside the car, they look great, almost like xenons, but from inside the car, they aren't bright enough to the point that they may be unsafe in poorly lit areas.
Pictures attached.
My next question will be to the people with HID kits in their low beams, how did things work out putting the HIDs shining through lens designed for halogens? Is the focal point totally off? Do these blind oncoming drivers? These have no beam cutoff like stock HID, so I'd think these would also look good from a brightness standpoint but the beam could be all over the place. True?
Stock is the photo on the left, Luminics is the photo on the right.
So, my impressions.... A- for color, C- for brightness/driving visibility.
The bulb is bigger, packaging says 30% bigger and it claims 30% brighter. These are supposed to be 5500K color. I think the problem is filtering to get the whiter/bluer color from a halogen cuts out too much of the brightness for driving visibility.
So from a cosmetic standpoint, looking at these from outside the car, they look great, almost like xenons, but from inside the car, they aren't bright enough to the point that they may be unsafe in poorly lit areas.
Pictures attached.
My next question will be to the people with HID kits in their low beams, how did things work out putting the HIDs shining through lens designed for halogens? Is the focal point totally off? Do these blind oncoming drivers? These have no beam cutoff like stock HID, so I'd think these would also look good from a brightness standpoint but the beam could be all over the place. True?
Stock is the photo on the left, Luminics is the photo on the right.
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Try getting the same bulb for the fogs as well. Turn both lows and fogs up and you'll be fine. I was in your position before so I know how exactly you feel. The colour was there but it lacks a little brightness. By switching out my fogs as well it turned out just the way I wanted.
What exactly is the deal with the halogen projector/lens in the low beams? I'm guess that the light output from these is less because of these lens. The stock fogs without lens look much bright to me than the stock low beams through these lens. Seems like they are compounding the problem, color filter on the bulb and lens in the housing.
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Well if that is the case then I don't think there is much options left for you. I'm happy with the output from my Diamond Visions at the moment. I did order a hid kit from O-nex but I have no idea where in the world they shipped it to. Has been a month or so no. Crap customer service.
I've attached pics of how my my lights light up.
I've attached pics of how my my lights light up.
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Well if that is the case then I don't think there is much options left for you. I'm happy with the output from my Diamond Visions at the moment. I did order a hid kit from O-nex but I have no idea where in the world they shipped it to. Has been a month or so no. Crap customer service.
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Richard2011,
To answer your question, I think that the CV Ultra match ok the AZN LED's. The AZN LED's are brighter, that is for sure. I know that in the pictures above, the CV still look yellowish. In real life, they are whiter than the stock lights, as I compared them with the stock bulbs side by side in my car. If the DV's are brighter, as I am reading here, then they are probably a better match.
I hope that this helps with your decision. Either way, they are better than the stock bulbs.
To answer your question, I think that the CV Ultra match ok the AZN LED's. The AZN LED's are brighter, that is for sure. I know that in the pictures above, the CV still look yellowish. In real life, they are whiter than the stock lights, as I compared them with the stock bulbs side by side in my car. If the DV's are brighter, as I am reading here, then they are probably a better match.
I hope that this helps with your decision. Either way, they are better than the stock bulbs.
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My next question will be to the people with HID kits in their low beams, how did things work out putting the HIDs shining through lens designed for halogens? Is the focal point totally off? Do these blind oncoming drivers? These have no beam cutoff like stock HID, so I'd think these would also look good from a brightness standpoint but the beam could be all over the place. True?
Richard2011,
To answer your question, I think that the CV Ultra match ok the AZN LED's. The AZN LED's are brighter, that is for sure. I know that in the pictures above, the CV still look yellowish. In real life, they are whiter than the stock lights, as I compared them with the stock bulbs side by side in my car. If the DV's are brighter, as I am reading here, then they are probably a better match.
I hope that this helps with your decision. Either way, they are better than the stock bulbs.
To answer your question, I think that the CV Ultra match ok the AZN LED's. The AZN LED's are brighter, that is for sure. I know that in the pictures above, the CV still look yellowish. In real life, they are whiter than the stock lights, as I compared them with the stock bulbs side by side in my car. If the DV's are brighter, as I am reading here, then they are probably a better match.
I hope that this helps with your decision. Either way, they are better than the stock bulbs.
Last edited by Richard2011; Aug 5, 2010 at 07:42 AM.
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I guess that the correct term should have been whiter and not brighter. If you notice in my signature picture, the eye brows and side markers have the LED's installed. Side markers are clear, with the Lamin-X tint on the lens.
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lKevinl, I tried the Luminics Titanium Kryton ones too. I agree with your points, look great but I have trouble seeing at night. To top it off, one of them burned out last week, and I've had them for about a year (and don't drive much). I was disappointed and had to put the OEM halogens back in. I'm considering going for HID rather than trial and error with other white halogens.
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I would like to switch to HIDs too but then there seems to be alot of different feedback. We might not be happy about the cutoff and stuffs from the hid etc. Towards the end of the day, we should have gotten the xenon package from factory. Sigh..
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lKevinl, I tried the Luminics Titanium Kryton ones too. I agree with your points, look great but I have trouble seeing at night. To top it off, one of them burned out last week, and I've had them for about a year (and don't drive much). I was disappointed and had to put the OEM halogens back in. I'm considering going for HID rather than trial and error with other white halogens.
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Hi Tia,
I have the Sport model, so mine uses the H7. You may want to check www.ipmart.com, that is where I purchased the Diamond Visions. I had them in 5 days from the date of purchase.
Good Luck!
I have the Sport model, so mine uses the H7. You may want to check www.ipmart.com, that is where I purchased the Diamond Visions. I had them in 5 days from the date of purchase.
Good Luck!
