desa

I have finally bought the exact fluted bolts mentioned here, but my wheel alignment guy tells me he can't see the "pins" that the flute slides into. Should ALL W204 have these bushes with the four "pins"?

I'm in Australia by the way. Can anyone help confirm? Thanks!

Glyn M Ruck

We have had one report to my knowledge of a car fitted with bushes with a centre hole only requiring the bushes to be changed as well to the 3 position bush. It was never established whether these were OE bushes or not as the vehicle was bought used.

desa

Thanks Glyn. Well, looks like mine has one of these non adjustable bushes. Bummer...
I can confirm mine is a stock standard original car. I wonder if they are all like that for the Australian market?

K-Mac Suspensio

Whether that is the case or not, and I don't believe it is, the fact is that an Australian manufacturer has an adjustable bush available that not only gives double the range of adjustment, but it makes it possible to infinitely adjust the settings within that range.

This means it's not a 2-position arrangement, but it's a bush which can be fitted and then adjusted on the aligner to get the settings just right.

These bushes are available for both front and rear suspension, by the way, as are bushes for almost every model of Mercedes from the late '60s onwards... adjusting camber, caster and rear wheel toe as well to dial out tyre wear and dial in better handling.

Check out the website - www.k-mac.comor e-mail sales@k-mac.com

Glyn M Ruck

I know that SA production still has the 3 way bush. Your car is I'm sure from Bremen or Sindelfingen after SA took over majority US supply.

danfranjr

Just to bring up this post again.

I am driving W204 with 19' wheels.

Rubbing issue at the rear
19 x 9.5 et40
265/30/19

One thing I have in mind is to adjust the rear camber negative to make the wheels look "A" from the rear view.

Any advice would be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Glyn M Ruck

Then you need to buy adjustable camber arms & fit them. There are a few threads in this regard for W204, lots for W203.

danfranjr

Glyn:

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Basically I just purchase the camber adjustable screw and the rest will be solved? Did i read wrongly? Camber arms or the camber screw itself only?

Another tire shop did tell me to get a smaller series of tires, prolly 255/30/19 instead of 265/30/19.

I wonder how much can I adjust negative on the rear camber

Glyn M Ruck

The 3 way system we are talking about on this thread is for the front suspension. On the rear suspension of a W204 you require to replace the pressed camber arm with a fully adjustable unit. I will try & find you a picture. Hang Ten.

Glyn M Ruck

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ar+camber+arms

danfranjr

Thanks Glyn for your kind assistance. Ive enquired from tht thread. Waiting for reply.

I seriously need to set my rear camber more negative to have rims and body clearance.

Was just wondering if that thing helps and I am from Malaysia so not sure if they do post it over if I couldnt get one at our local store.

Glyn M Ruck

I'm sure you will find somebody who will post to KL or wherever. Even from eBay.

Our forum sponsor K Mac may also be able to help depending on how far negative you want to go.

I have spent a lot of time in Malaysia over my career & have good friends there.

Good luck.

silkynitro

You can also try this site

http://www.k-mac.com/pages/newprods/newproducts.html

Cheers

Phil
sorry didn't read the previous thread

danfranjr

Thanks GLyn. What should i get exactly because the link you have given, Ive read through and its kinda confusing as it is an individual parts by parts. Some said 9" rod, some says 10".
A little slow on this matter because I have no exact idea on the parts. And kinda unsure if its suitable for W204 as it is for W203 mainly that thread.

Care to enlight me what to get in complete?

Thanks

danfranjr

Silky,

Thanks mate. KMac is quite costly after converting to our currency. Would opt for a cheaper alternative.

aussie e55

i understand KMac time to fit 3 1/2 hour each end = 7 hours total

danfranjr

Over here in Malaysia, if we are close to the mech, then it would not be as costly like the states or elsewhere. At most USD 30-50

Glyn M Ruck

I suggest you e mail Speedway and ask them what is appropriate for a W204. Put the onus on them.

Your only other solution is some heavy fender rolling.

K-Mac

Instead of one position offset fluted bolts. K-MAC to accurately resolve steering pull, premature edge tire wear, along with improving high speed directional control and brake/steering response manufacture precisely adjustable replacement bushes for the front. For both Camber and Caster adjustment.

For the rear similar Camber bushings including also extra Toe adjustment to compensate for the new found Camber adjustment facility.

Keeping in mind all that is currently available OEM is front and rear Toe!

Added bonus is the K-MAC patented design bushes also provide twice the load bearing area for extended bush life.

Plus allowing ongoing adjustment for curb knock damage, improving traction, altering height and/or tire widths or extra neg. Camber on racedays.

www.k-mac.com/mercedes/

danfranjr

I have just fitted the coil spring stopper to minimize the compression of springs during heavy load. It helps a little tho but somehow still hit the fender. and yes, prolly the last resort would be rolling the fender rather than changing my rubbers from time to time after adjusting the camber negative

dave2001auto

Glyn Ruck,
Are these bolts single or double slotted?

Glyn M Ruck

Double slotted generally. I have seen some single slotted bolts however that allow you to roll the bolt on one locating spike to give finer adjustment. I have never seen a shop that could not get alignment in spec with these fluted bolts. Remember when you achieve correct alignment you need to hold the head of the bolt with a spanner while you tighten the nut or you will tear the locating spike/lug out of the bush.

dave2001auto

Thanks Glyn M Ruck,


I have a 2009 e320 bluetec (RWD). With the normal bolts (Left and Right) after the alignment the readings are, the camber -1.5 and -1.2, caster 10.0 and 10.1, What should the front caster range? Toe measurements were 0.28 and 0.20 and corrected to 0.09 and 0.04. Car is still pulling slightly to the right. Tires have excessive inside wear bald (1/16" faster than outer edge - last 1 inch and 5/32 " on main 4 treads).

The rear camber is -1.6 (normal -1.5 to -0.5). Any aftermarket kit to fix this?
Any recommendations?

Glyn M Ruck

You need to pull your camber back to about -0.4

I typically run castor at 9.6 drivers side, 10.6 passenger side to stop pulling with the camber of the road. Benz allows max 2 degrees offset to correct this. In your case I would just take passenger side to 11 degrees.

I would not bother with rear camber. It's just out. You could rebush the camber arm if it bothers you. Rear toe is more important.

dave2001auto

With the installation of the mbz camber adjustment bolt, the maximum adjustment is +/-0.4 degress. So after installing the adj. bolts, the best I can get to mid-range are -1.1 Left and -0.8 Right (-1.5 + 0.4 = -1.1 for the Left and -1.2 + 0.4= -0.8 with a cross camber of 0.7). The individual camber angle will be in the mbz range of -1.5 to -0.5, but out of range for cross camber (+/- 0.3). I was thinking of either leaving the Right side as is or doing a slight adjustment to keep the cross camber within +/- 0.3 degress.

so -1.2 or -0.8 on the right camber?