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Old 12-21-2016, 04:54 AM
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Hi guys,


I just bought from Germany, November 2009 W212 E200 CGI (milage 104k kilometers). I have the same noise after driving 500km as in movie posted on first site -
and it is going me nuts!!



The sound appear usualy when I'm throttling and stopping (usually around 1500-2000 RPM) from the turbine site. I've changed the crankshaft sensor after orange engine icon appear, but this solution helped me only for one day and this sound appear again!


Do you have any solution for this issue?


I will very grateful for your advice and help!

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Old 01-29-2017, 10:12 AM
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Subscribed for updates. I have the same issue.


I have the same issue.

I just bought a 2011 C300 4Matic and it runs great except for this slight vibration I feel in D or R. It goes away in N, P or "at moving speed." While waiting at a traffic light in D, The vibration disappears once you stat moving or shift out of gear into N or P.

The other day, I had new engine and transmission mounts installed. While the vibration is much less than before, I can still tell it is there. The mounts just help mask the vibration. They are not the cause per se. My old mounts were not really bad.

Since I purchased the car, I've been combing through the threads for similar issues. It seems that those with these symptoms have all gone ahead and replaced the three mounts. While it has solved the problem for some (likely b/c they indeed needed new mounts), many 4Matic owners (not just he W204) have not had this resolved, including myself.

there are some threads that allude to the drive axle and drive shaft particular to the 4Matic. Some have had this expensive repair cure them of the problem. Another seem to have needed a new transfer case.

Anyway, I'm subscribed to this thread now and hope others will report back with their results. While there are many threads out there about this issue, many posters do not bother to follow up with what fixed the problem.

One more thing.

What I do notice, is that depending on the incline of the road that I am on (while stopped in D at a light), the vibration *seems" to diminish to noting, while other lights it is constant. I'm not sure if the wheel position may have something to do wit this.

There is also one other issue now that I think about it. When I first got the car, it had the vibrations, but it also had this steering noise and vibration as well. IF I turned the wheel as it nears the travel stops, there was a shudder-like vibration too. Now that I have new mounts, the vibration is less as mentioned, along with much less shudder in the steering wheel when turned towards stops. Like the general vibration, the steering vibration is still there but much less. The mounts are holding/masking some issue together. These two symptoms are likely related.
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Old 07-03-2017, 07:11 PM
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hi everyone,
my c200k has vibration when stopping at red lights...some times
it started with engine check light coming on
i changed spark plugs, coils, did regular maintenance
scanner code said cyl 1 something...
changed transmission oil and filter...because sometimes it felt like downshifting was delayed too much
changed engine mounts thinking might help vibration
i still have the problem
gas aditive, injectors cleaned, everything ok
will double check if gas filter was changed
will apprecciate any comments
regards,
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After having my front CV axles replaced I have had pretty much constant vibration when at a stop and the vehicle is in drive or reverse. If vehicle was in park or neutral, no vibration. After notifing garage of issue, they informed me I needed new motor mounts. Shop replaced motor mounts, still not fixed. Shop then told me tranny mount needed replaced. Replacing tranny mount did not resolve issue. After reading on this forum, I convinced the shop to replace the CV axles ahain (cardone remans from NAPA). After replacement vibration still present. At this point I was no longer going to deal with the shop that did the work as it became apparent that this garage didn't diagnose just threw parts at problems. I ordered a salvage axel and had it installed and lo and behold problem solved. Learnings:
1. A new Mercedes axle is around a $1000 this NAPA re-man $100. Sometime you get exactly what you pay for.
2. Cardone re-mans are crap
3. Contrary to what some have posted here, a bad axle can most definitely cause vibration at a stop when the axle is under load (drive or reverse)
4. If a shop changes a part out, a new issue arises and they don't even problem solve...run far away.
Hope this is helpful to anyone dealing with this same problem.
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:43 PM
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I have tried 2 aftermarket axle and they both vibrate. I am rebuilding my OEM soon so that should take care of it.
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The lockup clutch operation-Tipping Point-?

Is there somebody that know how the Lockup Clutch actually works with regards to:

On my Izuzu the lockup clutch only engage from 3rd gear onwards I was told.
On the Merc I would say its pretty quickly.

1-Neutral/Idle-?
2-Park/Idle-?
3-a)Drive/Idle_?
b)Drive/Slow pull away-?......C-Mode(2nd Gear) & S-Mode(1st Gear)....
c)DriveFast Pull away-?......C-Mode(2nd Gear) & S-Mode(1st Gear)....
4-With the above understood, how did Mercedes took care of,... call it the "Lock Up Clutch-Tipping point", a point where the idle revs make it want to engage/disengage in an endless loop until 1-car is taken out of Drive, put in Neutral or Park(Drivetrain disconnected), 2-Idle adjusted up or down for Drive engaged mode, 3-Or revs are changed-?
5-Coming to a stop with foot on brakes, off accellerator-?
6-My point is although there may be wear in the joints(Backlash), its not really the primary source of the problem, my opinion on this. I suspect the idle is such that the oil pressure to lockup clutch is such that it stays on its tipping point with the brakes on and certain revs in an endless pulsating loop, messing with the backlash towards all joints involved, and those with the most wear shows up as the worst behaving components. With no wear(new), this pulsating action has no where to go and is clamped down so to speak-?

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Old 01-18-2018, 02:42 PM
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I had exactly the same thing...have them check the transmission mount..mine was shot and allowed norma vibration to be felt throughout the car..only when in drive and stopped...put it in neutral and it disappears...dont get sucked into unneeded transmission work...mine was just fixed today 2011 c2504 matic
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Check the transmission mount...I had exactly the same symptoms...changed it this morning and vibration gone...
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Interesting to see how quickly this problem get solved now. Can these engine mounts/gearbox mounts be really that poorly manufactured, I never in my life had such a mount fail on any of the vehicles I owned.

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I have the same problem. My car is 5 years old and I will try changing the mounts to see if it fixes the problem. How much does the mount cost and labor? Is it a quick fix or you have to leave the car for a day?

How do I know if the problem is caused by the engine mounts or the transmission mount?

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Old 01-20-2018, 02:04 AM
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I have the same problem. My car is 5 years old and I will try changing the mounts to see if it fixes the problem. How much does the mount cost and labor? Is it a quick fix or you have to leave the car for a day?

How do I know if the problem is caused by the engine mounts or the transmission mount?
All 3 mounts took about 4hr for my 4matic I imagine a RWD would be quicker .

You can check the engine mounts by watching the motor while someone blips the throttle. The motor will rock noticeably with each blip if the mounts are bad .. Not sure how to test the tran Mount I think most people replace all three

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Old 04-24-2018, 05:33 PM
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Update April 2018: The solution for my 2008 C300 4matic was engine mounts and transmission mount. Cost about $900 at my independent mechanic - for me well worth the night and day difference. Good luck.

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