New owner and C250 ECU tuning
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New owner and C250 ECU tuning
Hello forum,
I'm happy to say I just leased a 2012 c250 sport with black on black. I was shopping around the A4, 328i, and c250 and the incentives for the c-class right now are incredible and I had to try out this new turbo engine.
So far the car is great. My only gripe would be the lack of responsiveness of the throttle and transmission when compared to some other units but still I bought this car because i'm ready for a bit more luxury.
The only modifications I have planned is the ECU tuning. I've been in touch with Brabus, Powerchip, Kleeman, and Renntech and it appears no one has received the cracked code yet to start tuning so everyone is on standby until they receive the cracked code from one of the three major firms. Brabus, of course, deciding to piggy back instead. I am excited to see what comes out.
Thanks for having this forum.
Cheers! Mike
I'm happy to say I just leased a 2012 c250 sport with black on black. I was shopping around the A4, 328i, and c250 and the incentives for the c-class right now are incredible and I had to try out this new turbo engine.
So far the car is great. My only gripe would be the lack of responsiveness of the throttle and transmission when compared to some other units but still I bought this car because i'm ready for a bit more luxury.
The only modifications I have planned is the ECU tuning. I've been in touch with Brabus, Powerchip, Kleeman, and Renntech and it appears no one has received the cracked code yet to start tuning so everyone is on standby until they receive the cracked code from one of the three major firms. Brabus, of course, deciding to piggy back instead. I am excited to see what comes out.
Thanks for having this forum.
Cheers! Mike
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Congrats with your 250 , looks good !! There are more company's with a tuning box. Kleemann also offer one, also TMC motorsport and http://www.diesel-power.com/de/de/Startseite-c334.php ! The Brabus is over priced in my opinion. The Kleemann, TMC, Vath and more are all the same manufacter i think.
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Congrats with your 250 , looks good !! There are more company's with a tuning box. Kleemann also offer one, also TMC motorsport and http://www.diesel-power.com/de/de/Startseite-c334.php ! The Brabus is over priced in my opinion. The Kleemann, TMC, Vath and more are all the same manufacter i think.
Enjoy your car .
Enjoy your car .
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Hello forum,
I'm happy to say I just leased a 2012 c250 sport with black on black. I was shopping around the A4, 328i, and c250 and the incentives for the c-class right now are incredible and I had to try out this new turbo engine.
So far the car is great. My only gripe would be the lack of responsiveness of the throttle and transmission when compared to some other units ...Cheers! Mike
I'm happy to say I just leased a 2012 c250 sport with black on black. I was shopping around the A4, 328i, and c250 and the incentives for the c-class right now are incredible and I had to try out this new turbo engine.
So far the car is great. My only gripe would be the lack of responsiveness of the throttle and transmission when compared to some other units ...Cheers! Mike
If your anxious and just want more engine response vs pedal travel, this Sprint Booster plug and play will definetly help that. This function is usually covered by any ecu upgrade:
sprintboostersales
Here is a general technical analysis of the Sprintbooster. Check out Fig_1 and Fig_3 :
SprintBooster White Paper
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Thanks and yes I've considered a sprint booster but figure i'll wait for the programming since many programmers also modify DBW throttle sensitivity also. Ive owned B5, B6, and B7 audi quattros and the ZF transmission was also somewhat lacking in response but not quite as bad. The BMW's programming in the ZF is light years better than both. That said, its a minor complaint so far. We'll see if it wears on me.
Cheers! Mike
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Thanks and yes I've considered a sprint booster but figure i'll wait for the programming since many programmers also modify DBW throttle sensitivity also. Ive owned B5, B6, and B7 audi quattros and the ZF transmission was also somewhat lacking in response but not quite as bad. The BMW's programming in the ZF is light years better than both. That said, its a minor complaint so far. We'll see if it wears on me. Cheers! Mike
I belive I said that in my post.
"The BMW's programming in the ZF is light years better ..."
Interesting, as back in 2008, we tried the Audi, BMW, and C300, all non-turbo 6 cyl's and all auto's with all wheel drive. I've got a dozen or 2 years of HPDE driving events burned in, and drove all cars rigorously on back roads, catching some air. The BMW was not Lightyears better (that's alot!) than the C300.
In fact, all transmissions were similar, exept minor differences in manual mode. It could be the fact that the C250 has minor issues in that MB is trying to control a turbo that wants to go wild, and a very complicated auto 7 speed at the same time.
I'm a big fan of the MB 7-spd auto. Does the BMW ZF have torque converter lock as the default in all 7 gears, and holds the TC lock under high loads? Just asking.
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Well I guess its most likely in the programming and it may not be as pronounced in the c300. In the BMW in sport mode I can hold revs in a lower gear when braking into a turn. The tranny will stay pegged in the gear at 5000rpm allowing you to go right back on throttle. In the c250 it doesn't hold the lower gear forcing you to give enough throttle that you get a kickdown after the apex and you end up upsetting the rear end or else having to wait longer for throttle.
Hitting sport mode in the bmw is a big time noticeable difference. The difference between economy and sport mode in the mercedes is neglible. Similarly in the manumatic mode in the c250 even then the car will not hold the gear when braking and it will force a downshift when flooring it making it hardly manual mode at all.
Still its not a big deal to me since this is the last of my cars I would ever take to a lap day. I do appreciate the much softer steering and ride of this car for cruising.
Cheers! Mike
Hitting sport mode in the bmw is a big time noticeable difference. The difference between economy and sport mode in the mercedes is neglible. Similarly in the manumatic mode in the c250 even then the car will not hold the gear when braking and it will force a downshift when flooring it making it hardly manual mode at all.
Still its not a big deal to me since this is the last of my cars I would ever take to a lap day. I do appreciate the much softer steering and ride of this car for cruising.
Cheers! Mike
