Transmission service done, but ........
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The plug on the torque converter does face the front (flywheel) but it does not require any special effort to remove it. It is small, and I used an allen wrench to remove it and replace it. If there were a little more room, maybe a ratchet would speed it up by 2 minutes.
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What is the procedure to refill it?
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2011 Mercedes Benz C300 4Matic Sport
Wow- lots of great information here- I love this forum!
Ok, my 2011 C300 4matic is almost at 39k miles and I will need the transmission flush and the B service, my brake fluid flush had been done a couple of months ago in the process of replacing my booster. I notice a lot of people talk about draining the TC, is this needed also? Does anyone recommend any local shops here in Seattle WA (I just relocated and dunno reputable shops yet). Any idea on cost for the B5 service? Thanks for your help!
Ok, my 2011 C300 4matic is almost at 39k miles and I will need the transmission flush and the B service, my brake fluid flush had been done a couple of months ago in the process of replacing my booster. I notice a lot of people talk about draining the TC, is this needed also? Does anyone recommend any local shops here in Seattle WA (I just relocated and dunno reputable shops yet). Any idea on cost for the B5 service? Thanks for your help!
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2018 AMG C43 Coupe
I am with ALC300. I read the whole forum and actually spent a few hours Googling and browsing the other forums and could not find what I was looking for. Sorry for asking if it is simply posted somewhere.
Does anyone have a link to the WIS or relevent documentation I can present my dealer on this? I have a 2013 C300 approaching 28k miles. I think that I will bring it with me to ask about changing out the TC fluid and would like present them with backup.
Any links would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Does anyone have a link to the WIS or relevent documentation I can present my dealer on this? I have a 2013 C300 approaching 28k miles. I think that I will bring it with me to ask about changing out the TC fluid and would like present them with backup.
Any links would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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2010 c63 (p31) w/LSD
Here it is, I got it off this thread a few pages back.
I am with ALC300. I read the whole forum and actually spent a few hours Googling and browsing the other forums and could not find what I was looking for. Sorry for asking if it is simply posted somewhere.
Does anyone have a link to the WIS or relevent documentation I can present my dealer on this? I have a 2013 C300 approaching 28k miles. I think that I will bring it with me to ask about changing out the TC fluid and would like present them with backup.
Any links would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Does anyone have a link to the WIS or relevent documentation I can present my dealer on this? I have a 2013 C300 approaching 28k miles. I think that I will bring it with me to ask about changing out the TC fluid and would like present them with backup.
Any links would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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2012 c250 Coupe
I'm about ready to do a tranny flush from the dealer. I have a 2012 c250 from the US. Does my car have 722.9 tranny and can I use this WIS document? I want to be 100% sure before I show them the WIS.
FYI I called 3 dealers in California. 2 said they don't drain the TC with 1 saying they had to drop the entire tranny to drain the TC for about $1500. The 3rd said they do drain the TC for $600 which is a ripoff.
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Thanks I saw that too. However is that a screenshot from the manual? It shows the capacity but I am looking for something that says "during this service you need to flush out the TC as well." That way if they do not I can show them the documentation.
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2011 Mercedes Benz C300 4Matic Sport
Wow- lots of great information here- I love this forum!
Ok, my 2011 C300 4matic is almost at 39k miles and I will need the transmission flush and the B service, my brake fluid flush had been done a couple of months ago in the process of replacing my booster. I notice a lot of people talk about draining the TC, is this needed also? Does anyone recommend any local shops here in Seattle WA (I just relocated and dunno reputable shops yet). Any idea on cost for the B5 service? Thanks for your help!
Ok, my 2011 C300 4matic is almost at 39k miles and I will need the transmission flush and the B service, my brake fluid flush had been done a couple of months ago in the process of replacing my booster. I notice a lot of people talk about draining the TC, is this needed also? Does anyone recommend any local shops here in Seattle WA (I just relocated and dunno reputable shops yet). Any idea on cost for the B5 service? Thanks for your help!
Any thoughts??
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2011 Mercedes Benz C300 4Matic Sport
How do you know if your tranny is 722.9? And how to know how many quarts it needs for the fluid replacement service? I'm getting a range from different sources from 5qts to 9qts.
Please help, thanks!
Please help, thanks!
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2014 C300 Luxury
I am with ALC300. I read the whole forum and actually spent a few hours Googling and browsing the other forums and could not find what I was looking for. Sorry for asking if it is simply posted somewhere.
Does anyone have a link to the WIS or relevent documentation I can present my dealer on this? I have a 2013 C300 approaching 28k miles. I think that I will bring it with me to ask about changing out the TC fluid and would like present them with backup.
Any links would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Does anyone have a link to the WIS or relevent documentation I can present my dealer on this? I have a 2013 C300 approaching 28k miles. I think that I will bring it with me to ask about changing out the TC fluid and would like present them with backup.
Any links would be appreciated.
Thanks.
So you're no where near due for this service...
Source: MB USA Recommended Maintenance Schedule
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2018 E300 Luxury w/P2
I have a 2014 C300 and with the maintenance contract I purchased it noted at 39,000 the transmission fluid level needed replace? I thought this has been gone over before here?
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2007 W204 220CDI Classic Sedan
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2014 C300 Luxury
The pre-facelift car has the M272 engine which lacks the "ECO Start-Stop" feature.
The 276 engine is in C300 2012+ so for most W204 C300 owners it doesn't apply. As this covers only 3 of the 8 years of the W204 C300 lifespan. For them the 39K rule applies.
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In my post up there (a few posts back) I linked to the MB Service Manual for the C. Give it a look. Your car has a M276 Engine. The manual states clearly that the 276 is to be done every 70K miles.
The pre-facelift car has the M272 engine which lacks the "ECO Start-Stop" feature.
The 276 engine is in C300 2012+ so for most W204 C300 owners it doesn't apply. As this covers only 3 of the 8 years of the W204 C300 lifespan. For them the 39K rule applies.
The pre-facelift car has the M272 engine which lacks the "ECO Start-Stop" feature.
The 276 engine is in C300 2012+ so for most W204 C300 owners it doesn't apply. As this covers only 3 of the 8 years of the W204 C300 lifespan. For them the 39K rule applies.
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So it was short lived, but very important to MB because missing CAFE targets gets them hit with a huge fine on every car sold in the US.
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It is a short lifespan for such a big change, but my guess is it is driven by fuel economy standards more than anything else. The Engine and Transmission were changed to allow the ECO Start Stop feature that some people love and some hate. The feature was added to boost fuel economy standards to keep up with CAFE.
So it was short lived, but very important to MB because missing CAFE targets gets them hit with a huge fine on every car sold in the US.
So it was short lived, but very important to MB because missing CAFE targets gets them hit with a huge fine on every car sold in the US.
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Seems Uniformity of dealers are lacking with regard to transmission service.. I suggest we publish those shops that "do it right" to our "customer is always right" specifications. And note those that do not. Mr. Glen M. Ruck seems to be "on top of it". 95% of my life I drove manual transmissions. I say I never learned to drive an automatic. Then had to when I bought the MB... However before my wife passed, she wanted auto trans. and I went one time to a national transmission place (starts AA-something..) and they wanted to not drop the pan of her GM car, but connect a hose at the radiator- I transmission line and back pump fluid. Give me a break... I do 35,000 or more miles per year billed to my company. A manual transmission never failed me.. So this is a concern for me. I do do my own service but lack a hoist. Detroit born.. it's in my blood..
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The reason you're seeing stuff like the dropping of the V6 from the 2014 C300 and introduction of the I-4 Turbo on the 2015 C300 is for CAFE reasons. The I-4 Turbo will burn less gas than a V6 in normal driving allowing for a MPG boost to satisfy CAFE. They then add the Turbo to try and keep the power from being reduced when you drive it.
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2011 C300 4matic sport
A list of shops who know how to properly service our transmissions would be useful! For Chicagoland peeps: Burdi Motorworks in Schiller Park, IL drained my TC and used the proper (blue) fluid in my NAG2 "plus" transmission. No hassle and very reasonable. $350 for the job.
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Ive watched a few videos on the whole process; It is touchy and tricky. Alot of hard to reach parts, multiple diff torque wrench sizes necessary, special tightness required for each bolt; etc.
Raise up/Get under the car, remove the TC drain plug after breaker barring it to the face-down position for the drain; Replacing new gasket without a single trace of dirt or oil on the edges, etc etc.... running 1 quart through the TC to flush it, omg...
I watched the video one time and thought "hey i can use this and tyr to svc it myself"; couple weeks later, i rewatched it and thought "wow 600 bucks isnt so bad". My time is worth alot to me, and if your a retired auto mechanic or civil engineer with tons of tools; Yeah. This isnt hard.
Ghetto rigging a pump out of tubing and running the oil through the tc, and cycling the gears to make.... etc etc
I mean come on! HOW CHEAP DO YOU WANT THESE POOR MECHS TO WORK FOR! Its fcking hard give them a break. You didnt get your benz being paid "waht the job was worth".
Listen; all you diy'ers, good for you. your pro status and we envy you. Even the indi mechanic will ahve his hands full doing this, unless hes done plenty beforehand.
Im not NEARLLLY confident or brave enough to try this. Sorry but i am in complete disagreement with the cost being extravagent.
Raise up/Get under the car, remove the TC drain plug after breaker barring it to the face-down position for the drain; Replacing new gasket without a single trace of dirt or oil on the edges, etc etc.... running 1 quart through the TC to flush it, omg...
I watched the video one time and thought "hey i can use this and tyr to svc it myself"; couple weeks later, i rewatched it and thought "wow 600 bucks isnt so bad". My time is worth alot to me, and if your a retired auto mechanic or civil engineer with tons of tools; Yeah. This isnt hard.
Ghetto rigging a pump out of tubing and running the oil through the tc, and cycling the gears to make.... etc etc
I mean come on! HOW CHEAP DO YOU WANT THESE POOR MECHS TO WORK FOR! Its fcking hard give them a break. You didnt get your benz being paid "waht the job was worth".
Listen; all you diy'ers, good for you. your pro status and we envy you. Even the indi mechanic will ahve his hands full doing this, unless hes done plenty beforehand.
Im not NEARLLLY confident or brave enough to try this. Sorry but i am in complete disagreement with the cost being extravagent.
