Here is My Comand Online NTG4.5 with Android
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Here is My Comand Online NTG4.5 with Android
Here is the Comand Online NTG4.5 with Android. Android is connected over Video Aux.
I wish that there was a HDMI input but unfortunatelly there was not The quality is not good but it is acceptable. I have setup android screen font size as bigger as possible, so now it is okay for readability.
PS: Sorry for Turkish Video.
I wish that there was a HDMI input but unfortunatelly there was not The quality is not good but it is acceptable. I have setup android screen font size as bigger as possible, so now it is okay for readability.
PS: Sorry for Turkish Video.
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As you know that connecting internet over bluetooth is very slow, BT max speed can be 115kbps. I really do not understand why Mercedes chose such a method. Comand Online is not usable for lowest speeds. In my video i have put a mini android device into glovebox and it has built-in WIFI. I'm going to take some photos for you on tomorrow for being clear.
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Here is usage and how i did installation of the my android;
1- Radio Screen
2- You have to select AUX tab. If you dont have AUX selection, you need to enable Video AUX from the Engineering Menu. (Press 3 second whole button to enter Eng.Menu "Hangup+1+#")
3-Here is Android SplashScreen while loading
4- Desktop of Android
5-Keyboard for android. I prefer this trackball keyboard, because it is very difficult to use the touch keyboard.
You can Buy from: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/110518339.html
6- Here is my tidy glove box Android MiniX801 is attached with adhesive tape.
7- Yellow arrow is Keyboard USB module, Green is WIFI antena. Android has also AV output so that you can directly connect to Comand NTG4.5 you dont need to any converter for this MiniX Android.
Buy from: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/110517005.html
8-MiniX Android is nice but little bit slow. It has 1 Core CPU.
But, you can buy this;
It has Dual Core 1.6 CPU this is very cool.. Its speed is very nice. But you need to buy also a HDMI to AV converter. I can obviously say that converting HDMI to AV is not good for display because, you are losing screen resolution. (Comand NTG4.5 has 1280x800 screen res.)
Android: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/202403436.html
Convert: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/200372686.html
9- You need also Power for android. Usually android is working DC 5Volt. Here is 12V to 5V 3A converter.
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Conver...-/130721834041
10- Yes, now you need a FAKRA to AV cable. This cable is not for Comand NTG4.5 but, you can plug to FAKRA, To do this, you have to remove plastic case. There are 2 (I remembered that it was dark green socket) fakra male B input connection back of the Comand head unit. One of them is for rear Camera and other is Video Aux input. I haven't a picture of the comand's back side. If i would take a picture, i'm going to upload the picture to see which fakra connection.
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-FOR...item564e42353a
Newly found yet, and ordered from Ebay I think this is suitable for Fakra Male B.
As I mention before that if you cannot find like this fakra cable you have to use cable without plastic case, like this;
11- Now, you need to connect Audio input. (I got this schema from my friend in MB service :P ) As you see that, in main fakra socket of the comand there are 3 sockets, A and B,C sockets. When you look at the B socket there are 3 pins for Audio input.
Pin 6 is for AUX Left, Pin 12 is for AUX Right, Pin 11 is for AUX GND. You can connect Audio output from Android to these pins. I prefer stripping FAKRA connector cable used for VIM (As you know that Video In Motion module for unblocking video signal while moving) not for FAKRA comes from the car.
12- Internet connection
13- Enable access point from your smartphone.
14- A TV application in Turkey for Android
15- This is a tv channel. If you have good 3G connection in your country you can watch TV without any interruption while driving.
In Turkey, we can reach 7 Mbit/sec 3G connection by Turkcell, so that we have no internet problem.
16- Here is MBWorld site
PS: Sorry for my english, I hope that this topic could have explained to you.
1- Radio Screen
2- You have to select AUX tab. If you dont have AUX selection, you need to enable Video AUX from the Engineering Menu. (Press 3 second whole button to enter Eng.Menu "Hangup+1+#")
3-Here is Android SplashScreen while loading
4- Desktop of Android
5-Keyboard for android. I prefer this trackball keyboard, because it is very difficult to use the touch keyboard.
You can Buy from: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/110518339.html
6- Here is my tidy glove box Android MiniX801 is attached with adhesive tape.
7- Yellow arrow is Keyboard USB module, Green is WIFI antena. Android has also AV output so that you can directly connect to Comand NTG4.5 you dont need to any converter for this MiniX Android.
Buy from: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/110517005.html
8-MiniX Android is nice but little bit slow. It has 1 Core CPU.
But, you can buy this;
It has Dual Core 1.6 CPU this is very cool.. Its speed is very nice. But you need to buy also a HDMI to AV converter. I can obviously say that converting HDMI to AV is not good for display because, you are losing screen resolution. (Comand NTG4.5 has 1280x800 screen res.)
Android: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/202403436.html
Convert: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/200372686.html
9- You need also Power for android. Usually android is working DC 5Volt. Here is 12V to 5V 3A converter.
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Conver...-/130721834041
10- Yes, now you need a FAKRA to AV cable. This cable is not for Comand NTG4.5 but, you can plug to FAKRA, To do this, you have to remove plastic case. There are 2 (I remembered that it was dark green socket) fakra male B input connection back of the Comand head unit. One of them is for rear Camera and other is Video Aux input. I haven't a picture of the comand's back side. If i would take a picture, i'm going to upload the picture to see which fakra connection.
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-FOR...item564e42353a
Newly found yet, and ordered from Ebay I think this is suitable for Fakra Male B.
As I mention before that if you cannot find like this fakra cable you have to use cable without plastic case, like this;
11- Now, you need to connect Audio input. (I got this schema from my friend in MB service :P ) As you see that, in main fakra socket of the comand there are 3 sockets, A and B,C sockets. When you look at the B socket there are 3 pins for Audio input.
Pin 6 is for AUX Left, Pin 12 is for AUX Right, Pin 11 is for AUX GND. You can connect Audio output from Android to these pins. I prefer stripping FAKRA connector cable used for VIM (As you know that Video In Motion module for unblocking video signal while moving) not for FAKRA comes from the car.
12- Internet connection
13- Enable access point from your smartphone.
14- A TV application in Turkey for Android
15- This is a tv channel. If you have good 3G connection in your country you can watch TV without any interruption while driving.
In Turkey, we can reach 7 Mbit/sec 3G connection by Turkcell, so that we have no internet problem.
16- Here is MBWorld site
PS: Sorry for my english, I hope that this topic could have explained to you.
Last edited by AstronBnX; 11-16-2012 at 10:01 AM.
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You need this for VIM:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVD-IN-MOT...item1e6876a4f9
Or quality one is Kufatec (I'm using this VIM):
http://www.kufatec.com/index.php?mai...3ev7mqf6q2lsl3
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No, If you are using VIM (Video In Motion module) there is not any problem.. It is always working while car is in moving.
You need this for VIM:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVD-IN-MOT...item1e6876a4f9
Or quality one is Kufatec (I'm using this VIM):
http://www.kufatec.com/index.php?mai...3ev7mqf6q2lsl3
You need this for VIM:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVD-IN-MOT...item1e6876a4f9
Or quality one is Kufatec (I'm using this VIM):
http://www.kufatec.com/index.php?mai...3ev7mqf6q2lsl3
btw ive been interested in installing VIM for awhile but worried whether installation is difficult. did you install it yourself? was it hard?
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Your English is *** guzel. Thanks for the write-up and sharing the information! I hope I can do this with mine. I don't remember a DVD option for mine but I'll play around and see what happens.
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carefully while pulling air ventilation part.
I also have to say that, After installation VIM, you can get an error when connects car
for SCN coding ODB2 socket. Because of bloking CANBUS signal. Star diagnos says the error is usually
in DVD or Video. This is normal.
This is only for comand NTG4.5 VIM, there isn't any problem with comand NTG4.0.
There is not VIM module gives no error for NTG4.5 arround yet.
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I'm happy for your polite approach. and Thank you for cute Turkish word If you have any further question please let me know. I'm ready to share with you all what I know.
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Sorry you cannot directly There is only one video aux input for NTG4.0, that is for rear camera. You need Multimedia interface for NTG4.0;
Have a look at these two links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-C-C...item3a7b34b43d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W20...item3a7892ff3c
For NTG4.5 you have 2 video input, rear cam and video aux.
Have a look at these two links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-C-C...item3a7b34b43d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W20...item3a7892ff3c
For NTG4.5 you have 2 video input, rear cam and video aux.
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Yes, you can.. This module has 3 AV input. 1 is for rear and 2 are for AV input. You can connect everything has AV output. To use with Apple you need iphone or ipad AV cable. This can be easly found in Ebay.
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Sorry you cannot directly There is only one video aux input for NTG4.0, that is for rear camera. You need Multimedia interface for NTG4.0;
Have a look at these two links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-C-C...item3a7b34b43d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W20...item3a7892ff3c
For NTG4.5 you have 2 video input, rear cam and video aux.
Have a look at these two links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-C-C...item3a7b34b43d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W20...item3a7892ff3c
For NTG4.5 you have 2 video input, rear cam and video aux.
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Yes, i installed it myself. It is easy to install it. You need 2 thin screwdriver for left and right clips of the air ventilation to pull it out. And 20 Trox screwdriver for Head unit. That's all But, you have to be
carefully while pulling air ventilation part.
I also have to say that, After installation VIM, you can get an error when connects car
for SCN coding ODB2 socket. Because of bloking CANBUS signal. Star diagnos says the error is usually
in DVD or Video. This is normal.
This is only for comand NTG4.5 VIM, there isn't any problem with comand NTG4.0.
There is not VIM module gives no error for NTG4.5 arround yet.
carefully while pulling air ventilation part.
I also have to say that, After installation VIM, you can get an error when connects car
for SCN coding ODB2 socket. Because of bloking CANBUS signal. Star diagnos says the error is usually
in DVD or Video. This is normal.
This is only for comand NTG4.5 VIM, there isn't any problem with comand NTG4.0.
There is not VIM module gives no error for NTG4.5 arround yet.
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To understand you have NTG4.0 or 4.5 you will have Browser sign (world sign) at top right side of the screen. If there is a World icon so you have NTG4.5 and you have 2 AV input.
If you have NTG4.0, there is a best solution for you. We applied retrofit for NTG4.5 to a car and NTG4.5 is working now Yes, you can replace your NTG4.0 with NTG4.5. This is orginal solution!. As you see that in my previous post, the multimedia module is chines modules. If i have no orginal solution i prefer to use this type of modules.
For orginal solution, you need Comand Online NTG4.5 for W212 (head unit), Telematics cables, lcd screen, gps antena and Xentry Developer edition to enable NTG4.5 for your car. If you dont have Xentry developer you have to go to MB service. If you go to MB services, you need thief PIN code and include head unit code 527 into your car data card (To include head unit code is hard part). If you have problem to supply these parts, i can recommend someone in germany. He gets these parts from damaged car and sending to us. I checked it to know from MB service in Turkey against stolen parts or not, it was not.
I have looked at Ebay right now, there are new multimedia interface products;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-BENZ-NE...897d2e&vxp=mtr
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