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Retrofitting 2011/2012 Speedo in a 2008 C Class

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Old 03-06-2015, 12:21 PM
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Ah, now I know what you are talking about. The upgrade from Classic speedometer and 4-button steering wheel to the Elegance/Avantgarde/AMG Pack speedometer and 12-button steering wheel.

If you have the Classic speedometer and the 4-button steering wheel in a pre facelift, it is no problem to upgrade to the "big" pre facelift and facelift speedo. Just the upgrade to 12-button steering wheel is required.
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yea that makes it rather expensive i think
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Ah, now I know what you are talking about. The upgrade from Classic speedometer and 4-button steering wheel to the Elegance/Avantgarde/AMG Pack speedometer and 12-button steering wheel.

If you have the Classic speedometer and the 4-button steering wheel in a pre facelift, it is no problem to upgrade to the "big" pre facelift and facelift speedo. Just the upgrade to 12-button steering wheel is required.
What is the 4 button steering wheel? I assume the 12 button any steering wheel with voice, back, and paddle shifters? BTW I already have the FL steering with paddles that works. So I guess I'm good to go. Just waiting to find a w212 head unit.
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you have volume up/down, menu up and menu select with the classic 4 button steer. it only comes with the basic speedometer
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you have volume up/down, menu up and menu select with the classic 4 button steer. it only comes with the basic speedometer
Got it. Thanks.
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yea that makes it rather expensive i think
Not really. You just have to replace the airbag, the control unit is part of it, and add code 442 to Vedoc.
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@Minuszeit you are a WIZARD!
Thank you for all the priceless information you have provided. It is much appreciated.
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Hi minuszeit

I have a 4 button steering and analogue speedo and I want to change to digital. I have seen many 2nd hand digital speedo on eBay i was very tempted to buy but wasnt sure if It would work. Im willing to change the wheel to 12 button long as it is possible to install a 2nd hand speedo because the price of new one is too steep in UK

My car is a manual not automatic, is it possible to use any digital speedo or does the speedo need to come from a manual?
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you're welcome.

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first you have to upgrade to 12-button steering wheel. With 4-button wheel you are unable to select every single point of the upper and sub menu.
You have a 4-spoke wheel, so just replace the airbag. The airbag for 12-button wheel contains the control unit.

It is your choice. Upgrading to pre facelift or facelift full digital speedo is the same work.
As I said before, if you buy a used one, the speedo is unable to assume the mile/km age, just ------- appears. To solve that problem it is necessary to ensolder and flash the Eprom. And that's the main problem. You have to find someone in your area who is able to do that.
That's why I said, a new speedo is the safe way.

The speedo get its information from central gateway. Manual or 5G/7G transmission doesn't matter.
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Is the dealer the only place to get new speedo? I can't imagine it being cheap.
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I don't know at the moment how much speedometers in the US or UK are, but here in Germany a new one is about 1000 Euro / 1250 USD.
I'm in the lucky position to purchase new spares directly from MB with a lot of discount.
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Thanks for response.

Just making sure I got this right, what you are saying is I need a 12 button steering wheel with a air bag, I wouldn't be able to use the airbag from my 4 button steering.

Yeah I have googled and found a company near by who repair speedos so am guessing they should be able to do it.
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You got a pre facelift, right?
If so, you can leave your steering wheel itself, just replace the airbag unit. Your current airbag includes a unit control for 4 button operation and the airbag. The airbag for 12-button steering wheels includes the control unit for 12 button operatiom and the airbag. The 12 button airbag unit for 4-spoke wheel has spare no A204 860 0202.
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Thats right, mine is pre-face lift. Im going to buy a 2nd hand 12 button steering with airbag.
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Am thinking of getting 3 spoke steering, am guessing that should fine.

Thanks for your help I have been looking around for this info for months and no one was able to give me a straight answer thats the reason I didnt have the confidence to go ahead, your the 1st person who was able to give me peace of mind. Cheers mate
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When was the car built? The wheels of 2007/08/mid of 09 do have different spare no. than the wheels of end 09 - 03/11.
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Originally Posted by Minuszeit
When was the car built? The wheels of 2007/08/mid of 09 do have different spare no. than the wheels of end 09 - 03/11.
Off subject: Is this why some paddle shifters work and some don't when upgrading to the FL steering w/paddles on non paddled cars?
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Date car got registered was 10/11/2009
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Originally Posted by aznmode
Off subject: Is this why some paddle shifters work and some don't when upgrading to the FL steering w/paddles on non paddled cars?
Never heard of that phenomenon.
I don't know the exact circumstances in the US but the European 204 with automatic transmission and Sports Pack or Advanced Agility Pack (sports knob on center console under headunit) do all have paddles.


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Date car got registered was 10/11/2009
3-spoke wheel w/o paddles A204 460 3203, airbag A204 860 5502 for model year 2010
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Thanks, whats the part number for the speedo
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This is the steering wheel A1724601803 / A1724601803 am thinking of installing
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A172... is a facelift wheel Sports Pack. You want that?
You have to install a facelift column to make the lighting of the knobs work.

1803 is the wheel with red stitches as I see. That doesn't work in pre facelift 204. Wrong control unit for model year 2013.

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I like the look of that steering wheel.

As for the speedo will these do A2045404948
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A172 460 2703 with paddles, A172 460 2903 without paddles do work in pre facelift. Airbag A172 860 1602. Column depends on Sedan/Estate and current extras like memory seats and cruise control.
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Every pre facelift and facelift speedo will work. Just pay attention to the rev gauge (Diesel/Gas)


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