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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 06:48 AM
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Brake issue?

I picked up my first Mercedes last Sat, which is a CPO 09 C300 Sport 4 Matic.

When I bought the car, I was told that the dealership insures that brakes and rubber have over 50% to qualify for the CPO program.

I looked at the service history and saw that the tires had been done. The car currently has 40,000 km on it.

I noticed on Sunday that there is a very low rumbling noise when I hit the brakes lightly over 25km/h. It's really quiet, but it kind of feels like that low vibration and sound that you get when traveling on snow or rough road. I didnt notice it on test drive as it was a very snowy day,

Any insights? Could it need new brakes already and the dealer neglected to do it?
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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usually if its a grinding ,rumbling noise I know for a fact that the pads and possibly rotors need to be replaced. Don't be surprised if they sold it as CPO and it wasn't qualified I've had this problem. just take it in and have them measure it with you present.


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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 09:23 AM
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Thanks for the issue. I will most definitely do that.

Can you tell me what the measurement should be?
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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I went through this exact situation with my e350. On the E's the pads are 10mm new. Mine measured out at 8mm both front and back (and this with the car having 25k mi). The total pad thickness is 15mm but that includes the metal backing plate so it doesn't count. You are looking for more than 6mm because they recommend replacement at 1 or 2mm. This is assuming that the w204 uses similar thickness pads.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Benz recommends minimum safe thickness of friction material at 3mm. Pad wear sensors trigger at 3~4mm.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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FYI :My disc original thicknesses & wear limits. :-

Front - Ventilated :-

Original = 28 mm
Minimum before repair = 26.5mm
Minimum limit = 26mm
Max runout = 0.12mm

Rear- Solid.

Original = 10 mm.
Minimum before repair =8.8mm
Minimum limit =8.3mm
Maximum disc runout =0.15mm.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by apples23
I picked up my first Mercedes last Sat, which is a CPO 09 C300 Sport 4 Matic.

When I bought the car, I was told that the dealership insures that brakes and rubber have over 50% to qualify for the CPO program.

I looked at the service history and saw that the tires had been done. The car currently has 40,000 km on it.

I noticed on Sunday that there is a very low rumbling noise when I hit the brakes lightly over 25km/h. It's really quiet, but it kind of feels like that low vibration and sound that you get when traveling on snow or rough road. I didnt notice it on test drive as it was a very snowy day,

Any insights? Could it need new brakes already and the dealer neglected to do it?
It's hard to imagine that anything could be beyond service limits with such low mileage. Plus, if the pads were worn out the brake warning light would be illuminated.

Since it has a warranty, let the dealer sort it out.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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I took the car to the dealer today. I just picked it up and was told that the brake noise if from some oxidation that's build up on the discs from moisture, as the car was sitting outside on the lot for 2.5 months.

I was told that the oxidization was go away as I drive the car and the noise will stop.

Does this make sense?
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Im not following....how do you know for a fact?
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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Try 2 or 3 hard braking stops ( safely) to see whether the brakes will bed in .

Take a look at the disc itself with a torch to see whether there is any build up/rust .

If the noise is still there take it back to the dealer & be firm that you need a repair.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 10:54 PM
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Im not following....how do you know for a fact?
He doesn't. Notice the wording is a copy of part of the first line of post #2 in this thread. And, his info shows a lower case "bmw". These are all symptoms of spam. Ignore it. The mods will delete it soon.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by apples23
I took the car to the dealer today. I just picked it up and was told that the brake noise if from some oxidation that's build up on the discs from moisture, as the car was sitting outside on the lot for 2.5 months.

I was told that the oxidization was go away as I drive the car and the noise will stop.

Does this make sense?
Certainly. Oxidation is just a fancy word for rust. Brake discs, being bare steel, will rust.

Drive it.
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