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Old 03-23-2013, 12:29 PM
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Aftermarket wheels/tires rubbing....

I got a set of Stance SC-5ive 8.5 wide in front with a 235/35 and tire +45 offset. A 9.5 wide with a 265/30 tire on rear +48 offset. When i go over a bump at 35 MPH or more the passenger side rubs the wheel opening. It seems like the passenger side rear is lower than the driver side. The wheel gap is about 1/4 smaller on passenger side....it also seems like the passenger side tire sticks out a little further. Anyone else run this size of wheel/tire combo. Oh yeah suspension is stock, C300 sport with AMG sportline package. Thanks everyone!

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You posted two offsets for each front and rear wheel, which one is it? 35 OR 45, and 35 OR 48?
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Sorry copied and pasted didn't realize I copied both. Fronts are +45 and back are +48. Thanks!
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I have a friend that just put Vossen wheels on his girlfriends car with the exact same specs and she has zero issues. Maybe an alignment would fix the camber issues on the one side of your car. If its height difference only it could be any matter of suspension related things. Blown strut, crushed spring pad etc. I'd have it looked at to rule out any concerns
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I don't think its a height issue, I think you are probably right probably a camber issue. At least I hope....it only has 22,000 miles on it.
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Looking at the car from the back the camber looks different on the driver side than the passenger. What would cause this?
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Could be several things that cause it. The first being a blown strut, the lower the car sits the further in the wheel will camber. Second could be a crushed/torn spring pad which is letting the spring sit higher in the perch causing that side to camber in. Third could be just the camber adjustment on that side. There is some adjustment but not much, it would be enough to notice if one side is out though.

I think your best bet is to get an alignment done but tell the tech your issue before he does it so he can check that first. Worst case you're car is freshly aligned and you know it's a component issue not alignment , best case it solves the problem.
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Thanks, I am dropping it off Wed to the dealer for an alignment. You say don't tell him my issue?
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Thanks, I am dropping it off Wed to the dealer for an alignment. You say don't tell him my issue?
No, I meant definitely tell him the issue first before he aligns it so he can see if its out as soon as he puts it on the rack. Ask him to look at the more cambered wheel first.
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Roger that, thanks for the advise that's what I will do.
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im also running stance sc5 with 235/35 in front and 275/30 rear
lowered on hr supersport spring
and i dont have any tires rubbing
maybe if was driving at 120mph and hit a huge bump but it did not happen yet
so i think you have something wrong
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Yeah mine is not lowered but there is not much of a gap in the rear wheel well....I can only get one finger in there no chance of anymore than that I can get 2 in the front. Shouldn't I have more space in there? I would post pics but don't know how to do it.

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Dealer said "your wheels are too big, that's why they rub". I said that only the passengers side rubs with a person in the car. The tech said "this car may not be perfect in regards to the unibody and the rear suspension being center, that's why its rubbing. This may not be covered because you altered the vehicle and may have done something to the suspension. Or the wheels were installed wrong." What kind of crap is that!? They are still going to look at it. I will keep everyone posted.
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Dealer said "your wheels are too big, that's why they rub". I said that only the passengers side rubs with a person in the car. The tech said "this car may not be perfect in regards to the unibody and the rear suspension being center, that's why its rubbing. This may not be covered because you altered the vehicle and may have done something to the suspension. Or the wheels were installed wrong." What kind of crap is that!? They are still going to look at it. I will keep everyone posted.
I have on my S204 - C320 4MATIC AMG Sports Package
8,5x19 ET 44 with 235/35x19 and 9,5x19 ET48 with 275/30x19
Michelin Pilot Super Sport This option doesn't rub.
AMG S-class wheel with modified ET

But my winter tires w/ same sizes but right back wheel was rubbing at ET 48 and stIlll rub a little after modified to ET 50. It's Michelin Pilot Alpin PA 4
275/30x19 on OZ racing superturismo LM
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So what caused your right wheel to rub? Was the tire profile different? Did you put a spacer in there? Thanks.
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So the dealer called and told me that the right tire toe in was not correct, and the ride height is not within MB specs. They blamed everything on the aftermarket "oversized" wheels and tires. They will not adjust the toe in because of the aftermarket tires and wheels. They said the toe in being out of spec is caused by the tire rubbing the wheel well. Its barley rubbing, just enough to make a little scrape on the tire. Passenger side only. Do not go to this dealer. What should I do? They are keeping the car til Monday. After my long "talk" with the SA he decided to get a second opinion from another one of their incompetent tecs. What is my next step, there is obviously something wrong with the car.

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So what caused your right wheel to rub? Was the tire profile different? Did you put a spacer in there? Thanks.
I Have both Summer and Winter tires from Michelin, but it looks like the wintertires in Equal dimmensjon is a bit wider than the summer tire.

I dont think it possiblel to get wider tires than 275/30x19 on rear axel.
I think the rub in right wheelarc is because of the Fuel
filling.

No spacers, only modifyed the ET from 48 Summer tires to 50 Wintertires on both 9,5 x 19 Rims

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What is modified ET?
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What is modified ET?
Shave off 2 mm
ET= " Einpress tiefe" (german Word for Offset)
If You shave off 2 mm from ET 48 Then it becomes ET 50
It means that You decrease the trackwith
You cannot do it at home, but in a mechanical workshop.
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Just a quick note. You can not rely on the width spec on the tire. The only dimension held to a tight tolerance by the factory is the OD. The apsect ratio assumes you have the nominal width, like 225mm. But in reality, the width can vary by more than 1 size, ie 10mm.

I had a 225/50 set that was much wider than a 245/45 set.

Also, there is some tolerance on the fender height from side to side, as well as how well the car is centered between the wheels.

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