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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 03:48 PM
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Trans Fluid Change - ALL or NOTHING why??

So we all know the importance of keeping fresh fluid in our 7G/7G Plus units. But so many have the concern that the torque converter fluid is not changed when dealer does service. And none of us really know if dealer changes it unless we watch. Qty of units on invoice doesn't mean squat...at my dealer anyway.

So, what's the science behind adding new fluid to old fluid? Does the new juice really become completely worthless by being contaminated by old fluid? Or is some new fluid in fact better than no new fluid at all?
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Why are you even considering this as an all-or-none situation? This issue is no different from any other with the same concept. If you buy a gallon of fresh milk, the overall milk is fresher than if you mix in last week's leftover milk. The fluid is not worthless, but it's not as good as it should be, and the benefits are reduced.
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I've read that people say a partial change is worthless, that's why I was asking. If there was something special about the science or fluid behind those claims. I can't make the leap to milk, as it's not a scientifically developed fluid. Obviously, I wouldn't drink spoiled milk, even if someone poured half a gallon of fresh into it. Not sure if that applies to synthetic fluids though.
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Originally Posted by spyked
I've read that people say a partial change is worthless, that's why I was asking. If there was something special about the science or fluid behind those claims. I can't make the leap to milk, as it's not a scientifically developed fluid. Obviously, I wouldn't drink spoiled milk, even if someone poured half a gallon of fresh into it. Not sure if that applies to synthetic fluids though.
I did not suggest spoiled, just "last week's". The extreme is not the proper viewpoint. Like many situations, shades of gray are involved. Don't be misled by those who can only think in black and white.
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But so many have the concern that the torque converter fluid is not changed when dealer does service. And none of us really know if dealer changes it unless we watch. Qty of units on invoice doesn't mean squat...at my dealer anyway.
This, I suspect, is one of those old wives tales.... Fact is, there are many jobs that a dealer or an independent mechanic can say they did when in fact they hadn't touched a thing. I mean I have no doubt its happened on a much grander scale than just a few quarts of oil... But to say that dealers do it, an they do cheat us by lying about changing the oil in the torque converter? For that statement to come out in every transmission oil thread... I think dealers make enough money that most, would consider the risk too large for the reward of a few quarts of oil for every transmission oil change they do. Why do that when they have plenty of legitimate ways to screw us and do so "in your face"...

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So, what's the science behind adding new fluid to old fluid? Does the new juice really become completely worthless by being contaminated by old fluid? Or is some new fluid in fact better than no new fluid at all?
Its pretty simple really... If the fluid in the transmission has reached a stage where it it recommended that it be changed due to the fact that it may not be offering the protection is needs to offer, then oil that is in the torque converter which, presumably, has been used over the same time period and has subjected to the same restraints driving conditions has likely reached the end of its useful cycle as well.
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