Alex_K

Here they told me that that tires without the "MO" aprrove may not last for long time. .I dont know if this is true. . But according to what other members said Mich last longer. .

Glyn M Ruck

Please note that the Michelin PS2, PSS are high performance summer tyres. They are not long life tyres. You can't have it both ways. Superior grip means softer compounding & shorter life.

I find their life acceptable for the level of performance & silence on this chassis.

Alex_K

I have been told by a tyre fitter in Cyprus that the PSS might not be a good choice for my Mercendes because they are soft tyres and this will mean that they will wear out extremely fast in the hot weather of Cyprus.

I also emailed Michelin and they told me that temperature is not a problem.

On the other hand, I forgot to mention that I have been advised that softer tires mean that in roads of bad condition (like in Cyprus), with pot holes, they are much more prone to punctures. So that has to be a factor too. Michelin has denied that too.

Tires are an issue that troubles people I guess from what I read & I am puzzled indeed

Pete7874

What is your treadlife expectation? PSS should be able to give you about 25-30k km of life if you rotate.

Alex_K

Well the car is not my daily driven so i will be okay with the treadlife i think. . I can't rotate it because its not the same. .Front 225/40/R18 and rear 255/35/R18

Glyn M Ruck

Michelin is correct. And high temperatures are not an issue. The tyres are made for multiple temperature conditions & Michelin will import appropriate tyres for Cyprus conditions.

Tyres are a complex subject & much crap is spoken by those that don't know.

Michelin spends more on research every year than any other tyre company.

Rodpwnz

How would you say the DW or DWS are on the W204? I chose PSS for my brother's tuned 335 because of the grip, feel and performance, but I chose the DW for my C300 for the comfort, and treadlife. They are both amazing tires from what I've read and actual grip isn't much different.

How about DWS vs A/S 3?

I'm about to replace my conti procontact 3's with a set of DWS.

Sportstick

If you are looking at Ultra High Performance All Season tires, the AS3 are the clear first choice over the DWS. I recently replaced DWS with AS3....quite an improvement. DWS only advantage was in light snow...neither is good for any more snow than that, but everywhere else, AS3 wins.

Glyn M Ruck

I think the DW/DWS tyres are reasonable on W204/203. Certainly a lot better than SC but I agree with Sportstick. He reflects the findings of most here & certainly the W203 forum.

Alex_K

The DWS are better than Cont SC5?

Pete7874

Define "better."

DWS may be somewhat quieter as they wear, but DWS can't match CSC when it comes to dry grip nor steering response. DWS is a rather mushy tire, in my experience, more geared toward comfort than performance.

RavenMDX

Conti Extreme Contact DWS...and there's nothing mushy about these tires...hard and responsive.

Pete7874

I guess it's a point of reference thing. My comment was in comparison to quality summer-only tires like CSC5. For all-seasons, DWS are alright.

RavenMDX

Well, I'm using my DWS for summer only even if there' all season. I wanted a high performance tire that lasts longer than the CSC5. These tires are not cheap. Since I have a set for summer and Michelin's for winter, that's alot of coin.

Pete7874

And that's exactly my point. You get longer treadlife with DWS. In return you give up some traction and steering response, as compared to a true summer tire.

Anyway, it's a moot point as DWS isn't even available in Europe, where the OP is.

Alex_K

Yes that why i am asking i didn't find DWS to any store here. I only found CSC5. Our tires here is almost summer tires since where is a 70% summer and 30% winter. And in winter i don't even take the car for a walk if its raining.

Glyn M Ruck

You don't need All Season tyres in Cyprus. Also be careful reading tyre reports/surveys/tests.

A Tyre that works well on one chassis does not necessarily work well on another. The Conti SC Range noise issue as an example is more prevalent on the W203 & W204 chassis due to compliance & elastomer hardness selection in the suspension. You can fit the same tyre to an S Class & it still makes all the same air pumping noises but it does not transmit it into the cabin like a 203/204 where it can sound like a failing wheel bearing.

Tyre noise transmission is frequency & harmonic dependent for a given chassis set up. The reason NVH Engineering can be such a pain.

Skyline45

60% of the time, Michelin is the better choice everytime >.^

Alex_K

Btw its a little bit off topic but doesn't anyone know why when you are turning the wheels are take that big slope? is something with the turning circle to help turn more easily?

Pete7874

Not sure I understand what you're referring to.

Alex_K

Yes sorry my English is not very good. I put a picture to help you.

F1BHP

Sorry Alex you lost me also but to go back to topic I just ordered the contisportcontact 5 mainly due to the fact that the Michelin ss where impossible to find in the uk in 305/25r20 to go on my new Carlsson 1/10 ultralight wheels. What I did learn is that the conti 5 on my front wheels only weigh 22 pounds in 255/30r20 along with the ultralights at 23 pounds that is an amazing 45 pounds wheel and tire for 20"

Alex_K

Wow!! I think i read some reviews saying that the conti sp5 is a light tires.. What about the performance? Are you happy with them?

F1BHP

I am having the wheels and tires fitted on Monday then heading Down to SPA for a track day so ask me after that.

Alex_K

Okay good luck for the track. .i am waiting for your feedback after that day.