H-tip Vs Y-tip on quad conversation
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H-tip Vs Y-tip on quad conversation
I already tried to use the search on this...
I'm interested in the quad conversion but I'm aiming for the SUBTLE look and don't want my tips to be sticking out too much, want it to look flush with the diffuser and curving with it.. I see they see Y tips and H tips on eBay... What are the inputs and which one should I buy if I want he subtle look?
I'm interested in the quad conversion but I'm aiming for the SUBTLE look and don't want my tips to be sticking out too much, want it to look flush with the diffuser and curving with it.. I see they see Y tips and H tips on eBay... What are the inputs and which one should I buy if I want he subtle look?
#2
I personally have H-tips on my quad tip install. From the info I gathered they allowed for a cleaner, easier install. The "flushness" can be adjusted to your liking by the exhaust tech doing the install. He'll doublecheck your happy with positioning before welding in place
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From what I see on ebay there are 2 kinda of "h" tips.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-C250-C200-C300-C350-C63-W204-Quad-Exhaust-Tips-AMG-/231463204912?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35e4483830&vxp=mtrhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-W204-C-Class-C63-AMG-STYLE-CHROME-QUAD-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-TIPS-PIP-/281520026710?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item418be6b456&vxp=mtr
The one I have looks like the 2nd and they stick out about an inch after install. The muffler shop couldn't weld it in further as part of the bend in the tips pipe is too close to the cars frame chassis on the right side of the car. The tip needs a good 1" clearance from it so the tips don't bang on it. But the "h" pipe is the easiest and the fastest to install. If you don't already know, the stock tips pipe starting from the muffler has a slight "S" bend to it so the stock tips are technically not centered from the muffler. With the "h" tips, they just cut the stock pipe from the muffler before the "S" bend and weld these on. This is also the reason why the "Y" pipe is not the best tips to work with. The shop will have to fabricate a pipe to make the tips centered. There's not a lot of room for this so there is a chance it can be off centered a bit or they can't do it at all. And most likely it will also stick out because of the minimum space they have to work with after the muffler.
As far as the first "h" tip link I posted, the bend seems sharper so there might be enough room. But someone else will have to chime in on those tips.
Also note:
The faster the tips are to install, the cheaper it's gonna cost you. I spent $95 on install. Most shop charge on a per hour basis.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-C250-C200-C300-C350-C63-W204-Quad-Exhaust-Tips-AMG-/231463204912?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35e4483830&vxp=mtrhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-W204-C-Class-C63-AMG-STYLE-CHROME-QUAD-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-TIPS-PIP-/281520026710?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item418be6b456&vxp=mtr
The one I have looks like the 2nd and they stick out about an inch after install. The muffler shop couldn't weld it in further as part of the bend in the tips pipe is too close to the cars frame chassis on the right side of the car. The tip needs a good 1" clearance from it so the tips don't bang on it. But the "h" pipe is the easiest and the fastest to install. If you don't already know, the stock tips pipe starting from the muffler has a slight "S" bend to it so the stock tips are technically not centered from the muffler. With the "h" tips, they just cut the stock pipe from the muffler before the "S" bend and weld these on. This is also the reason why the "Y" pipe is not the best tips to work with. The shop will have to fabricate a pipe to make the tips centered. There's not a lot of room for this so there is a chance it can be off centered a bit or they can't do it at all. And most likely it will also stick out because of the minimum space they have to work with after the muffler.
As far as the first "h" tip link I posted, the bend seems sharper so there might be enough room. But someone else will have to chime in on those tips.
Also note:
The faster the tips are to install, the cheaper it's gonna cost you. I spent $95 on install. Most shop charge on a per hour basis.
Last edited by aznmode; 02-20-2015 at 02:23 PM.
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Problem with the "h" tips is that the inside tips exhaust almost 0% of the gasses. The inner tips of my h tips are clean as a whistle and the outer ones are full on dirty. Also, when it's cold, you can see the outer ones smoking and the inner ones not. Slightly annoying if you're OCD like me.
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Wassup man! It's true to a point. We have the same "h" tips and my shop couldn't make it more flush than what I wanted due to the curve pipe of the tip getting too close to the cars frame. He said any closer and it would make a rattling noise since the pipe will be hitting the frame as the muffler vibrates. Saw it myself how close he can get it before I had him weld. Anyway, hope all is good with you.
Last edited by aznmode; 02-20-2015 at 04:29 PM.
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Wassup man! It's true to a point. We have the same "h" tips and my shop couldn't make it more flush than what I wanted due to the curve pipe of the tip getting too close to the cars frame. He said any closer and it would make a rattling noise since the pipe will be hitting the frame as the muffler vibrates. Saw it myself how close he can get it before I had him weld. Anyway, hope all is good with you.
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Problem with the "h" tips is that the inside tips exhaust almost 0% of the gasses. The inner tips of my h tips are clean as a whistle and the outer ones are full on dirty. Also, when it's cold, you can see the outer ones smoking and the inner ones not. Slightly annoying if you're OCD like me.
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If you swap out the mufflers during the conversion you will get the flush look you desire as the new mufflers are like 1/3 the size so the installer will have plenty of room to adjust to your liking.
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Thanks for the pic. I asked the same from the shop I went to and they didn't wanna mess with the frame. It looks about the same distance as mine. So your tips are flushed to the diffuser?
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Yeah, pretty much depends on how you look at it. The pax side have about 1/4" gap between the frame (without the 1/2" lip) and the tip.
However Tech had a hard time aligning the tips against the diffuser. The pics will tell you why.
Edit: I bought the quad tips long ago from the 1st eBay seller posted by aznmode in post #3. The tips are shipped out from Hawaii.
Also in post# 3, you will notice the bend pipe slightly differ between the two sellers. I would think the tips sold by the 2nd eBay seller will sit more flush. But then again, I am not sure if it has the deflector inside like mine.
However Tech had a hard time aligning the tips against the diffuser. The pics will tell you why.
Edit: I bought the quad tips long ago from the 1st eBay seller posted by aznmode in post #3. The tips are shipped out from Hawaii.
Also in post# 3, you will notice the bend pipe slightly differ between the two sellers. I would think the tips sold by the 2nd eBay seller will sit more flush. But then again, I am not sure if it has the deflector inside like mine.
Last edited by C0d3Sp4c3; 02-22-2015 at 10:37 PM.