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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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Hello every one,

i have c200 w204 2008, i have a problem with the esl unit i got the esl motor to replace it also i've made my way through removing the steering column and i took it all out, tried to remove the esl unit but when i try to press it down to take it out its still locked and doesnt want be unlocked, any help???
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Old Apr 8, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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perfect..thanks for the great help
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Old Apr 8, 2016 | 08:37 PM
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Hello Tiko,

Always happy try to help a Cairo man.
Cairo, the city of many Peugeots!!

I looked in the 'search this forum' link & found the following :-

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...epair-diy.html

You will find a lot more comment here.

Good luck & let us know how you go.
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Old Apr 8, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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Thanks man for the help, but actually in cairo we have mercs more than germany i think
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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guys same problem, after getting a used esl the car shop tried two locks, every time its working fine but once installed in the car it works for 5 times and then we have a useless esl again,

any ideas?
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 08:02 AM
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lol.. i dont have camels plutoe i have 2 mercs, any helpful ideas other than being funny?
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Old May 3, 2016 | 03:22 PM
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Unhappy Another W204 ESL fails

Got the bad news today from the mechanic. My 2008 W204 with about 90,000 Kim's and full agent service history .....had the dreaded ESL problem.

Not too happy as this is a pretty expensive repair, and other than this issue, car has been great.

Has MB ever admitted that this was a design flaw, and is there a record of how many such failures there have been? It seems like quite a high hit ratio so I am surprised not to have heard of MB being taken to task for not having addressed this more proactively.

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Old May 3, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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Got my car repaired with a used esl paid 300$ mercedes didnt help as expected also i got the emulator for future problems but anyways you have 2 options
1st is to buy a new esl which will cost you 520$

2nd buy the emulator for 130$ and bypass the esl and never think about this issue again

You can buy both if you want from the supplier I dealt with let me know if you need help
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Old May 3, 2016 | 03:56 PM
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Thanks tiko. Have u had issues with ESL since? Is new ESL of a better quality?

Please post supplier details. I have already ordered ESL, but I think emulator info would be useful for me, and anyone else that may suffer this in future.

In fact, had I known about this, I would have done the emulator install when I bought the car. It's a cheap(er) insurance policy!

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Old May 3, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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The first time I noticed how the wheel locked and before reading about any of the failures it made me worried. It just sounds like something that will fail.

To me it seems like a useless security feature anyway. Without a key what use it it anyway. If someone wants to get the car that bad they can just put it on a flatbed and haul it off.
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Old May 3, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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The supplier is located in UAE
www.abk.ae
Check the web site and search for w204 emulator and they can send it to you wherever you are
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Old May 3, 2016 | 04:03 PM
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Thanks! Will check it out and see if they ship to South Africa.
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Old May 3, 2016 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tiko
The supplier is located in UAE
www.abk.ae
Check the web site and search for w204 emulator and they can send it to you wherever you are
Hello Tiko,

I would be grateful of any more information on installation & programing.

Thanks,

John.
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 08:05 AM
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This is cheap sollution: http://ces24.com/immo-emulator/19-me...-emulator.html
Perfect to everyone, no need to be an electrition to instal. I bought it and Iam very happy, because I instal it myself. Moreover save a lot of money.

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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Airton123
This is cheap sollution: http://ces24.com/immo-emulator/19-me...-emulator.html
Perfect to everyone, no need to be an electrition to instal. I bought it and Iam very happy, because I instal it myself. Moreover save a lot of money.


Cool. I want to buy one to have on hand just in case.


So how are these wired into the car? Take apart steering column and this wires into where the ESL wire harness would connect?

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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:35 PM
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No emulator will work on any w204 cars without programming with special tool.
And even used ESL needs programing.
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by charles.soori
No emulator will work on any w204 cars without programming with special tool.
And even used ESL needs programing.


What about this one? https://www.abkeys.com/abk-3615-merc...-device-2007up


From what I can read just the keys need to be reprogrammed. Unless I am missing something.

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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin G
What about this one? https://www.abkeys.com/abk-3615-merc...-device-2007up


From what I can read just the keys need to be reprogrammed. Unless I am missing something.
no emulator will work without programming. If you read, it says you need to use there program and cable to program emulator.
I fix lots of esl,eis for w204 and how it works is.
I read EIS info and key info and combine them together and program emulator or fix original ESL.
older model like w203 doesn't need programming and emulator is just Plug and play.
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by charles.soori
no emulator will work without programming. If you read, it says you need to use there program and cable to program emulator.
I fix lots of esl,eis for w204 and how it works is.
I read EIS info and key info and combine them together and program emulator or fix original ESL.
older model like w203 doesn't need programming and emulator is just Plug and play.

Thanks. That site includes some software I think but am unsure about the wire you mentioned. I am at work so I'll have to read into it further.
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:59 PM
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Thanks. That site includes some software I think but am unsure about the wire you mentioned. I am at work so I'll have to read into it further.
You will definitely need there hardware and there software to program emulator and trust me it won't be cheap for one time use.
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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Okay, I am p*****d. ESL failure this morning. Fortunately it happens in my driveway. Sucks that you can't even move the car which was blocking other cars in the driveway. Now I am bracing for the dealer shenanigans.
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 09:55 AM
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I am bracing for the dealer shenanigans.
you dont have to unless you choose to. there are work arounds as discussed above.
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Ha.....recognized the avatar. I may try going the emulator route. It started after fiddling, but not trusting it now until it's fixed.
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 12:17 PM
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Ha.....recognized the avatar. I may try going the emulator route. It started after fiddling, but not trusting it now until it's fixed.
emulator for w204 models have to be programmed. If you send me eis and key I can program emulator.
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 12:20 PM
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Thanks Charles. I am going to see if my local indie will handle the programming.
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