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Old 12-16-2018, 02:23 PM
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Domwild, I appreciate your input.

S70Houston, not trying to highjack a thread, I was just giving a review of my Takata airbag service which included a trans service. I forgot how sensitive people here are to "forum etiquette" how dare I continue with questions based on the response of someone trying to help. I have given myself several lashings for this and had a stern talk in the mirror...
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Wow, you are way more patient and tolerant than I am.
I would have insisted on speaking with a Manager and would have let the Manager know that I would reach out to MB of North America to inform them of the dealers incompetance.

One thing I have learned over the years, ....... MB Dealerships are only to be used when a car is in warranty or in need of recall work. Otherwise, STAY AWAY.

Find yourself a good, trustworthy Indy, who will appreciate your business and go the extra mile to make you happy. A Indy in most cases also has a much cheaper labor rate.

Neither my S550, nor my wife's C300 (or my daughter's 330i BMW for that matter) will see the dealer based on what you have described as well as my own personal disappointments.

My Indy services all of our cars and is happy to see me each and every time, has never let me down and still insists in EXCELLENT customer service.

Good luckto you, I hope you will find a competent Indy, specializing in European cars in your area.
I would agree with you to a point - I am sure certain smaller metro areas might just have one or two terrible dealerships competing with little to no independents but when you get larger metro areas with multiple competing dealerships and independents they tend to match pricing of the indy's and provide just as good if not better service. In Atlanta metro area Mercedes-Benz of Buckhead and RBM Motors are the top dogs of the dealerships and match or exceed independent pricing and service levels.

My '11 E350 is going to the dealer that is ~3/4 mile from my condo (Mercedes-Benz of Buckhead) who provides outstanding service. With the $150 off $300 coupon my engine mounts and trans mount will end up $50 cheaper at the dealer than the best indy in town (Revolution Motorsports) that is ~8 miles away and does not offer loaners or a shuttle to where I need to go. I'm not even sure if they do the wash or vacuum either as MB of Buckhead has always been competitive on price with the indy's and my service with them has been fantastic so I have only had my departed C300 and E350 serviced there. Without the $150 off $300 coupon the engine and trans mounts would have only been ~$100 cheaper at Revo but would have taken 40-45 minutes round trip of my time driving to/from the dealer and the associated uber/lyft costs and another 40-45 minutes round trip to get to where I needed to go (work or home).
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Just had the driver and passenger airbags replaced at Lynnwood Mercedes (north of Seattle). In the past I was not impressed with this dealership, but they did great work this time. I asked for the transmission service while they had the car and was told it was on special for $369.00. When I went to pick it up I was told they actually had a 50% off deal that was better and did the service for $265.00. At that point they had already quoted me and I had agreed to the higher price. Kind of impressed they gave me the better deal, and washed and vacuumed the car as usual. Josh was the service writer that gave me the deal.
I just had Ray Catena in Edison, NJ replace my defective Takata airbags in my 2009 C-300 Sport.
I was told on the phone that the entire job would take 1-1.5 hours, but when I arrived at the appointed hour, the Service Manager explained that both the driver and front passenger airbags had to be replaced.
That would take 3-4 hours.
As it turned out, the job was completed in less than 3 hours, including a free car wash.
Ray Catena did an excellent job and I would recommend them for this service without hesitation.
My regular MB independent mechanic, whom I used exclusively for 40 years!, just retired, so I'm looking for another experienced independent MB mechanic in the north or mid-Jersey area.
I was paying $90 for a Mobile One European/Mann Filter complete oil change, but I don't expect that's possible with a new guy.
Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by kkdanamatt
I just had Ray Catena in Edison, NJ replace my defective Takata airbags in my 2009 C-300 Sport.
I was told on the phone that the entire job would take 1-1.5 hours, but when I arrived at the appointed hour, the Service Manager explained that both the driver and front passenger airbags had to be replaced.
That would take 3-4 hours.
As it turned out, the job was completed in less than 3 hours, including a free car wash.
Ray Catena did an excellent job and I would recommend them for this service without hesitation.
My regular MB independent mechanic, whom I used exclusively for 40 years!, just retired, so I'm looking for another experienced independent MB mechanic in the north or mid-Jersey area.
I was paying $90 for a Mobile One European/Mann Filter complete oil change, but I don't expect that's possible with a new guy.
Any suggestions?
I just paid AUS$120 or US$84 for 10 litres of Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30, so you got a perfect deal!


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I just paid AUS$120 or US$84 for 10 litres of Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30, so you got a perfect deal!
Mobile 1 European costs less than $54 USD for 10 US quarts at Wal-Mart.
The Mann oil filter is less than $9 USD online.
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Originally Posted by kkdanamatt
I just had Ray Catena in Edison, NJ replace my defective Takata airbags in my 2009 C-300 Sport.
I was told on the phone that the entire job would take 1-1.5 hours, but when I arrived at the appointed hour, the Service Manager explained that both the driver and front passenger airbags had to be replaced.
That would take 3-4 hours.
As it turned out, the job was completed in less than 3 hours, including a free car wash.
Ray Catena did an excellent job and I would recommend them for this service without hesitation.
My regular MB independent mechanic, whom I used exclusively for 40 years!, just retired, so I'm looking for another experienced independent MB mechanic in the north or mid-Jersey area.
I was paying $90 for a Mobile One European/Mann Filter complete oil change, but I don't expect that's possible with a new guy.
Any suggestions?
The drivers side takes like 3 minutes to do if you know where to prod in the back of the steering wheel.
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Just took my 14 C300 in on the 10th for the recall & stayed while the repairs were completed. It took approximately an hour and 45 mins, but that time included the customary wash. My dealer is located in St. Clair Shores. Always timely
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I called the MB Canada phone number and they said my car had no recalls. When I use the website to input my VIN number it says that my passanger air bag is in recall.
What gives with MB Canada?
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Finally the wait is over. About a week ago I called the dealer. They verified my car shown on the last notice from MB corporate and ordered parts. I called today and scheduled the fix this Saturday. I was told it will take about three hours for the fix.
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Finally the wait is over. About a week ago I called the dealer. They verified my car shown on the last notice from MB corporate and ordered parts. I called today and scheduled the fix this Saturday. I was told it will take about three hours for the fix.
GREAT! I got a note in the mail from MB USA 2 weeks ago, letting me know that my car will get the recall done and I should contact my dealer as the parts were now available. As of last week Monday, 04/01/19, the dealer is still trying to locate the Passenger Side Airbag as they only have the Driver's Side.

Let the Saga continue!
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The whole Takata scenario is nuts. They alone used ammonium nitrate as the propellant for their airbags. When the problems with this design became known, they added a dessicant, hoping they could continue selling a modified form of the original A-M inflator. Will this work? No one knows, too soon to tell.

In the meantime, every replacement Takata air bag is an ammonium nitrate design with dessicant, so if you have one replaced you are part of the big experiment, congratulations. In fact current model new vehicle buyers are also getting Takata A-M-with dessicant inflators, so they are also unwitting test subjects.

You would think auto manufacturers who care about their customers would get a non-A-M replacement airbag to bring closure for this whole issue, but none are, it's cheaper to take the 'improved' Takata replacements than to have TRW or some other manufacturer make new units.

BTW, Takata's assets were purchased out of bankruptcy by a Chinese company, so who knows what ethics/concern for end user safety this new owner may have!
And like many things designed for us consumers now, things designed by idiots that don't seem to think ahead or remember what the engineers of the old days figured out by hard work and proven techniques. Other than the propellant used as mentioned above, the other problem is putting it in a literal tin can. Simple logic says it should have been a pressure vessel capable of holding the over pressure many thousands of times what it would normally be, and on top of that have a pressure relief system that exits the gases away from the people in the car or even a simple containment system made from thick steel plate. I think the old time air bags were activated by a remote Co2 bottle, instead of something that sends industrial fire works up in the air during the 4th.

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Old 04-11-2019, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvin Bellrose
I called the MB Canada phone number and they said my car had no recalls. When I use the website to input my VIN number it says that my passanger air bag is in recall.
What gives with MB Canada?
I booked an online service appointment with dealer first in case I can force the issue after 2.5 yrs of waiting for recall,they have my VIN.Then got phone call a few days later.Receptionist told me no outstanding recall on my car on the dealer's system.
I have 2 recalls letter on hand. One 2.5 yrs ago.One a few days ago.
I called MB Canada ,they said still working on getting the parts for the last 2.5 years. I think they are betting on the first lawsuit or the original owner selling or trading in the car and the problem forgotton.
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Got both my fronts replaced at the dealer free of charge and added a new wrapped steering wheel to that new airbag, looks fantastic
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GREAT! I got a note in the mail from MB USA 2 weeks ago, letting me know that my car will get the recall done and I should contact my dealer as the parts were now available. As of last week Monday, 04/01/19, the dealer is still trying to locate the Passenger Side Airbag as they only have the Driver's Side.

Let thie Saga continue!
Mine is finally going to the Dealer tomorrow to get this work done after an almost 3 year waiting period.
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I rescheduled to tomorrow with a loaner available. Last Saturday I got to the dealer but found all loaners were out, forgot to ask them first, and I live outside of their shuttle service within 10 mile radius.
I called earlier to make sure the airbag modules ordered for my car are not used for other customers as I postponed my service. Service dept said no the order is based on VIN waiting for my car.
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On our C Class I have received numerous letters that it is under recall but no parts available for the airbag. I keep thinking for a Mercedes this is pretty bag. A safety issue goes on for years. Just one more item that has not impressed me with Mercedes. Was talking with the Service Manager yesterday that this 2009 C Class has had more service issues than any of our American cars in the last 40 years. That is on top of the regularly scheduled services.
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Finally airbag recall fix is done.
This time I got a 2019 CLA with 5000 miles loaner car. Again the inline turbo 4 is rougher and noisy at start and at low speed, can't compare to V6. The overall noise level is noticeably higher than my 2011, partially due to its 18" wheel vs my 17".
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I checked MB recall status found my airbag recall is incomplete as of today. I chatted with MB corporate. They already contacted dealer but no valid response yet. They will follow up and give me a definite answer shortly. I told them there could be a chance that dealer was busy that time they forgot to do my repair when they thought it was complete.
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I checked MB recall status found my airbag recall is incomplete as of today. I chatted with MB corporate. They already contacted dealer but no valid response yet. They will follow up and give me a definite answer shortly. I told them there could be a chance that dealer was busy that time they forgot to do my repair when they thought it was complete.
WHAT???? You nor your dealer know what work was completed on your car??
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Paperwork I received clearly says recall work complete, plus multiple inspections complete plus free car wash. It took about four hours.

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