Jerky Transmission, 2nd Gear, RPMs wild, 2011
#26
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i have no idea. But this is what I was quoted :
Intake manifold tumbler flap (DTC 0521) $1535.00
Transmission and torque converter for upshift complaint-
Converter $1132.00
Transmission $3430
Labor $1200
I just bought the car 1 week ago for $9.8k from Toyota of SF. With taxes a little over $11k. And now I need $7k in repairs ? I’m speechless. Don’t know what to do. Dealer will not remedy.
As I said before, you should also have another independent mechanic take a look at it.
I'm not sure but maybe the used car lemon law applies here too and could force the Toyota dealership to take it back. Read up on this here
http://lemonlawautofraud.com/california-used-car-lemon-law-fact-sheet
#27
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A lot of dealerships are known to replace parts rather than actually attempt to repair the car. That's how they make money and that's why we call them stealerships. Can you please post all the error codes they got from the transmission diagnostic? We need to understand better what is wrong. I highly doubt the entire transmission and torque converter are garbage and to be tossed out.
As I said before, you should also have another independent mechanic take a look at it.
I'm not sure but maybe the used car lemon law applies here too and could force the Toyota dealership to take it back. Read up on this here
http://lemonlawautofraud.com/california-used-car-lemon-law-fact-sheet
As I said before, you should also have another independent mechanic take a look at it.
I'm not sure but maybe the used car lemon law applies here too and could force the Toyota dealership to take it back. Read up on this here
http://lemonlawautofraud.com/california-used-car-lemon-law-fact-sheet
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you are right. I’ll have it looked at again at another shop.
They did not give me any codes. I’ll ask if these can be provided and update you guys
#28
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it looks like the lemon law only applies to used cars sold with a warranty or covered under original warranty. This does not apply to me
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you are right. I’ll have it looked at again at another shop.
They did not give me any codes. I’ll ask if these can be provided and update you guys
#29
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I have contacted them and asked for the codes. Hopefully they provide them
would it be better if I also take it into a dealership for a diagnostic ? My dealer quoted me $250 for this service
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What is the Toyota dealership saying? The car came with absolutely no warranty?!
#31
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let's not rush into anything now. Let's see if they provide you with the codes and let's see what the independent mechanic says. We need the codes to understand what's going on and to research the codes using Google to find if they are common and what the fix was. Don't stress out too much because I have a feeling the problem is definitely not a $7k problem.
What is the Toyota dealership saying? The car came with absolutely no warranty?!
What is the Toyota dealership saying? The car came with absolutely no warranty?!
I called and asked if they could do anything for me. It is still be talked about and the manager I spoke with said it’s an upper management decision and he wil get back to me with a solution. If any.
thank you for all of your help
#32
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Update.
Taking it it to the dealer I bought the car from.
They are are going to have their shop take a look at it to confirm any problems.
Either they will try to rememdy it or sell me a different car.
SF Toyota is being nice about it. Will keep you guys updated.
The shop I took it to yesterday has not gotten back to me about the transmission codes.
If worst came to worst. Shouldn’t be too bad to find a used transmission and put it in for half the cost ?
Taking it it to the dealer I bought the car from.
They are are going to have their shop take a look at it to confirm any problems.
Either they will try to rememdy it or sell me a different car.
SF Toyota is being nice about it. Will keep you guys updated.
The shop I took it to yesterday has not gotten back to me about the transmission codes.
If worst came to worst. Shouldn’t be too bad to find a used transmission and put it in for half the cost ?
#33
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Dropped the car off to the dealer and as soon as they tried to start it all of the power cut off to the car suddenly and the car would not start. Interested to see their findings as to what is wrong with the car.
#34
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Update.
Taking it it to the dealer I bought the car from.
They are are going to have their shop take a look at it to confirm any problems.
Either they will try to rememdy it or sell me a different car.
SF Toyota is being nice about it. Will keep you guys updated.
The shop I took it to yesterday has not gotten back to me about the transmission codes.
If worst came to worst. Shouldn’t be too bad to find a used transmission and put it in for half the cost ?
Taking it it to the dealer I bought the car from.
They are are going to have their shop take a look at it to confirm any problems.
Either they will try to rememdy it or sell me a different car.
SF Toyota is being nice about it. Will keep you guys updated.
The shop I took it to yesterday has not gotten back to me about the transmission codes.
If worst came to worst. Shouldn’t be too bad to find a used transmission and put it in for half the cost ?
#35
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That's some comforting news. Glad they are standing up for their mistake. Unless they are willing to fix it at a Mercedes Benz dealership properly, I would prefer to return it and get another car because you don't want to keep owning it only to have another transmission problem appear again. Keep us posted and best of luck.
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#37
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UPDATE
So the dealership said they had their mechanics look at it and there were no found transmission issues, however, I do need a new intake system, and they will replace that for me free of charge.Either that or I can pick out a different car and take no loss on this C300.
Do you guys think its worth it?
Here is a video of the issue. Would a DTC 0521 code cause the RPMs to act this way? Besides that, the car did completely turn off once I got it to the dealership, maybe this is a blessing in disguise?
I will also mention that one time I floored it in the car, I got the ESP light/ message and then car would no longer go fast, but I had to turn it on and off to reset it.
I also did email the shop I took it to to provide me with transmission codes and they never replied.
So the dealership said they had their mechanics look at it and there were no found transmission issues, however, I do need a new intake system, and they will replace that for me free of charge.Either that or I can pick out a different car and take no loss on this C300.
Do you guys think its worth it?
Here is a video of the issue. Would a DTC 0521 code cause the RPMs to act this way? Besides that, the car did completely turn off once I got it to the dealership, maybe this is a blessing in disguise?
I will also mention that one time I floored it in the car, I got the ESP light/ message and then car would no longer go fast, but I had to turn it on and off to reset it.
I also did email the shop I took it to to provide me with transmission codes and they never replied.
Last edited by MrDoctor; 12-26-2018 at 10:50 PM.
#39
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Apparently the issue is the intake manifold tumbler flap. I am just not familiar with the symptoms of this issue, so either the fix could cure it, or it could be something else....and the problem persists.
#40
I have the same issue on my w204 2011 c300 benz, Whenever My car starts to accelerate and change gears it starts giving some small jerks at gear 3 above and very noticeable when climbing uphill. Why is that happening? i drive a c300 benz 2011 4matic. I have changed engine oil and gear box oil and also serviced the fuel injectors. this is also noticeable on the car speedometer as seen in the video attached. this happens a lot while maintaining constant speed
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#41
It's the torque converter. You can try to do a transmission service and add 2 tubes of instant shudder fixx. It will make it a lot less noticeable for some time until the torque converter wears out completely. Also you have to use a scanner to clear adaptation and there is also an input for torque converter replacement and it has to be done. Otherwise the problem will continue.
Last edited by Mb4li5; 01-14-2022 at 01:30 AM.
#42
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I changed mine at 135k miles. So much smoother now. Also eliminated the rpm shudder at low RPMs or when car was under load.
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#43
It's the torque converter. You can try to do a transmission service and add 2 tubes of instant shudder fixx. It will make it a lot less noticeable for some time until the torque converter wears out completely. Also you have to use a scanner to clear adaptation and there is also an input for torque converter replacement and it has to be done. Otherwise the problem will continue.
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#45
The torque converter has clutches inside. When they wear out these are the symptoms you get. What I mentioned earlier is a temporary fix until you can do the proper repair like changing out the torque converter. Temporary fix can last up to 60k miles
#46
#47
Bad torque converter doesn't cause a check engine light. I recommend you get the fluid changed and make sure to add 2 tunes of the shudder fixx. And all adaptations must be cleared and torque converter replacement selected in the scan tool. Otherwise you won't feel a difference.
#48
Bad torque converter doesn't cause a check engine light. I recommend you get the fluid changed and make sure to add 2 tunes of the shudder fixx. And all adaptations must be cleared and torque converter replacement selected in the scan tool. Otherwise you won't feel a difference.
#49
Bad torque converter doesn't cause a check engine light. I recommend you get the fluid changed and make sure to add 2 tunes of the shudder fixx. And all adaptations must be cleared and torque converter replacement selected in the scan tool. Otherwise you won't feel a difference.
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