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Old 12-19-2018, 10:31 PM
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i have no idea. But this is what I was quoted :

Intake manifold tumbler flap (DTC 0521) $1535.00

Transmission and torque converter for upshift complaint-
Converter $1132.00
Transmission $3430
Labor $1200

I just bought the car 1 week ago for $9.8k from Toyota of SF. With taxes a little over $11k. And now I need $7k in repairs ? I’m speechless. Don’t know what to do. Dealer will not remedy.
A lot of dealerships are known to replace parts rather than actually attempt to repair the car. That's how they make money and that's why we call them stealerships. Can you please post all the error codes they got from the transmission diagnostic? We need to understand better what is wrong. I highly doubt the entire transmission and torque converter are garbage and to be tossed out.

As I said before, you should also have another independent mechanic take a look at it.

I'm not sure but maybe the used car lemon law applies here too and could force the Toyota dealership to take it back. Read up on this here
http://lemonlawautofraud.com/california-used-car-lemon-law-fact-sheet
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A lot of dealerships are known to replace parts rather than actually attempt to repair the car. That's how they make money and that's why we call them stealerships. Can you please post all the error codes they got from the transmission diagnostic? We need to understand better what is wrong. I highly doubt the entire transmission and torque converter are garbage and to be tossed out.

As I said before, you should also have another independent mechanic take a look at it.

I'm not sure but maybe the used car lemon law applies here too and could force the Toyota dealership to take it back. Read up on this here
http://lemonlawautofraud.com/california-used-car-lemon-law-fact-sheet
it looks like the lemon law only applies to used cars sold with a warranty or covered under original warranty. This does not apply to me

you are right. I’ll have it looked at again at another shop.

They did not give me any codes. I’ll ask if these can be provided and update you guys

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it looks like the lemon law only applies to used cars sold with a warranty or covered under original warranty. This does not apply to me

you are right. I’ll have it looked at again at another shop.

They did not give me any codes. I’ll ask if these can be provided and update you guys

Go back to the dealership and ask them for a full list of fault codes so we can diagnose what's going on.
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Go back to the dealership and ask them for a full list of fault codes so we can diagnose what's going on.
i went to an independent shop well known in the area.

I have contacted them and asked for the codes. Hopefully they provide them

would it be better if I also take it into a dealership for a diagnostic ? My dealer quoted me $250 for this service
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i went to an independent shop well known in the area.

I have contacted them and asked for the codes. Hopefully they provide them

would it be better if I also take it into a dealership for a diagnostic ? My dealer quoted me $250 for this service
let's not rush into anything now. Let's see if they provide you with the codes and let's see what the independent mechanic says. We need the codes to understand what's going on and to research the codes using Google to find if they are common and what the fix was. Don't stress out too much because I have a feeling the problem is definitely not a $7k problem.

What is the Toyota dealership saying? The car came with absolutely no warranty?!
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let's not rush into anything now. Let's see if they provide you with the codes and let's see what the independent mechanic says. We need the codes to understand what's going on and to research the codes using Google to find if they are common and what the fix was. Don't stress out too much because I have a feeling the problem is definitely not a $7k problem.

What is the Toyota dealership saying? The car came with absolutely no warranty?!
I really hope you are right. It is definitely stressing me out. The car was sold to me as is. No warranty. The salesman was pretty assuring though. Lesson learned. I figured I could put a little trust into buying from a Toyota dealership

I called and asked if they could do anything for me. It is still be talked about and the manager I spoke with said it’s an upper management decision and he wil get back to me with a solution. If any.

thank you for all of your help
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Update.

Taking it it to the dealer I bought the car from.

They are are going to have their shop take a look at it to confirm any problems.

Either they will try to rememdy it or sell me a different car.


SF Toyota is being nice about it. Will keep you guys updated.

The shop I took it to yesterday has not gotten back to me about the transmission codes.

If worst came to worst. Shouldn’t be too bad to find a used transmission and put it in for half the cost ?
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Dropped the car off to the dealer and as soon as they tried to start it all of the power cut off to the car suddenly and the car would not start. Interested to see their findings as to what is wrong with the car.
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Update.

Taking it it to the dealer I bought the car from.

They are are going to have their shop take a look at it to confirm any problems.

Either they will try to rememdy it or sell me a different car.


SF Toyota is being nice about it. Will keep you guys updated.

The shop I took it to yesterday has not gotten back to me about the transmission codes.

If worst came to worst. Shouldn’t be too bad to find a used transmission and put it in for half the cost ?
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Dropped the car off to the dealer and as soon as they tried to start it all of the power cut off to the car suddenly and the car would not start. Interested to see their findings as to what is wrong with the car.
That's some comforting news. Glad they are standing up for their mistake. Unless they are willing to fix it at a Mercedes Benz dealership properly, I would prefer to return it and get another car because you don't want to keep owning it only to have another transmission problem appear again. Keep us posted and best of luck.

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That's some comforting news. Glad they are standing up for their mistake. Unless they are willing to fix it at a Mercedes Benz dealership properly, I would prefer to return it and get another car because you don't want to keep owning it only to have another transmission problem appear again. Keep us posted and best of luck.
will do. Thank you
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Most dealerships are pretty greasy for sure.
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UPDATE

So the dealership said they had their mechanics look at it and there were no found transmission issues, however, I do need a new intake system, and they will replace that for me free of charge.Either that or I can pick out a different car and take no loss on this C300.

Do you guys think its worth it?

Here is a video of the issue. Would a DTC 0521 code cause the RPMs to act this way? Besides that, the car did completely turn off once I got it to the dealership, maybe this is a blessing in disguise?

I will also mention that one time I floored it in the car, I got the ESP light/ message and then car would no longer go fast, but I had to turn it on and off to reset it.

I also did email the shop I took it to to provide me with transmission codes and they never replied.


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Will they do the intake work and let you drive it again? Wondering if there is a significant vacuum leak that could cause the issues.
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Will they do the intake work and let you drive it again? Wondering if there is a significant vacuum leak that could cause the issues.
That I have not asked yet, although I will tomorrow.

Apparently the issue is the intake manifold tumbler flap. I am just not familiar with the symptoms of this issue, so either the fix could cure it, or it could be something else....and the problem persists.
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I have the same issue on my w204 2011 c300 benz, Whenever My car starts to accelerate and change gears it starts giving some small jerks at gear 3 above and very noticeable when climbing uphill. Why is that happening? i drive a c300 benz 2011 4matic. I have changed engine oil and gear box oil and also serviced the fuel injectors. this is also noticeable on the car speedometer as seen in the video attached. this happens a lot while maintaining constant speed
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It's the torque converter. You can try to do a transmission service and add 2 tubes of instant shudder fixx. It will make it a lot less noticeable for some time until the torque converter wears out completely. Also you have to use a scanner to clear adaptation and there is also an input for torque converter replacement and it has to be done. Otherwise the problem will continue.

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Anyone on here above 100k miles and never had their transmission fluid flushed? I'm pushing 145k and have yet to change my fluid. Car shifts buttery smooth even when it's 10 degrees out....
I changed mine at 135k miles. So much smoother now. Also eliminated the rpm shudder at low RPMs or when car was under load.
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It's the torque converter. You can try to do a transmission service and add 2 tubes of instant shudder fixx. It will make it a lot less noticeable for some time until the torque converter wears out completely. Also you have to use a scanner to clear adaptation and there is also an input for torque converter replacement and it has to be done. Otherwise the problem will continue.
hi what do you mean it is the torque converter?
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hi what do you mean it is the torque converter?
Google "w204 torque converter" and happy reading.
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The torque converter has clutches inside. When they wear out these are the symptoms you get. What I mentioned earlier is a temporary fix until you can do the proper repair like changing out the torque converter. Temporary fix can last up to 60k miles
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The torque converter has clutches inside. When they wear out these are the symptoms you get. What I mentioned earlier is a temporary fix until you can do the proper repair like changing out the torque converter. Temporary fix can last up to 60k miles
here is a video describing the issue i am experiencing. rpms go up and down when accelerating and also you will notice minor rpms fluctuations at idle when car is not moving the rpms go up and down tiny bit. but when car starts to accelerate you will find it struggling to accelerate to the next gear as seen in the video above. does this mean my torque converter is bad as i do not have any fault code on my dashboard and no check engine light.
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Bad torque converter doesn't cause a check engine light. I recommend you get the fluid changed and make sure to add 2 tunes of the shudder fixx. And all adaptations must be cleared and torque converter replacement selected in the scan tool. Otherwise you won't feel a difference.
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Bad torque converter doesn't cause a check engine light. I recommend you get the fluid changed and make sure to add 2 tunes of the shudder fixx. And all adaptations must be cleared and torque converter replacement selected in the scan tool. Otherwise you won't feel a difference.
okay I’ll have the mechanic replace my torque converter. Here’s another video of the issue I am experiencing
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Bad torque converter doesn't cause a check engine light. I recommend you get the fluid changed and make sure to add 2 tunes of the shudder fixx. And all adaptations must be cleared and torque converter replacement selected in the scan tool. Otherwise you won't feel a difference.
had my mechanic replace the torque converter and now all sluggishness as regards transmission has been fixed. I was so happy I didn’t give up on the car and did a lot of research on it. So happy I instructed my mechanic to change out the torque converter because they were reluctant it could cause the sluggishness in transmitting next gear. Now everything all fixed and car runs smooth.


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