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Old 01-08-2019, 09:08 PM
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Time for an oil change and which oil to use

I'm getting a fluid extractor form harbor freight tomorrow and planing to do an oil change.
I do my own oil change in my other cars but this will be the first time in the Benz using the extractor method. I was too lazy to invest in an extractor but enough is enough. I'm tired of paying $150.00 for this.
What oil do you guys recommend? I was reading up on Liqui Moly, any advise?

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If you live in a colder climate, consider 0W40 instead. Walmart always has the best price for Mobil 1 0W40.

All the MB-approved oils for your car are listed here: https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html
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Another question, how many qts of oil does it take?
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This is easy.

Don't overdo this, and just follow my suggestion.

Mobil 1 0W40 "euro spec". (the latter is redundant).

Buy it on sale, and get it done. It takes about 7.4 (IIRC) quarts, but I'm going off of memory. Check your manual. It also depends on if your vehicle is 4matic or not.
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Mobil-1 0W-40

I don't use an extractor and get all done for like $50
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If you plan on keeping the car, buy the oil filters in bulk (Mahn) from rock auto. They're under 10$ each so just buy a bunch of them and have them in stock. For the oil, as many have mentioned, Mobil 1 0w40 European Blend works just fine and goes on special quite often.
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You may also find the Castrol 0W40 at some W*mart stores. Also meets the MBz spec. Both the Mobil 1 and the Castrol product are on Amazon.

Meazz, Harbor Fright sells another oil extractor that connects to you air compressor, should you have one. Very useful tool.
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You may also find the Castrol 0W40 at some W*mart stores. Also meets the MBz spec. Both the Mobil 1 and the Castrol product are on Amazon.

Meazz, Harbor Fright sells another oil extractor that connects to you air compressor, should you have one. Very useful tool.
This is the only other one I see at HF.
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Yeah, that's the one, Meazz. Price has gone way up. I guess you need their stacking coupons - - I paid right around $100 for it. Super-useful tool IF you have air power in your garage.
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Yeah, that's the one, Meazz. Price has gone way up. I guess you need their stacking coupons - - I paid right around $100 for it. Super-useful tool IF you have air power in your garage.
Yes, about $160 without coupons. Still need to deal with the filter, so how is this more efficient than the drain method?
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I don't want to goo the drain method because of the following. If I can get by w/o doing all this than why not?
1. need to put the car on a ramp
2. remove the splash board under the car
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I was told by my friend who is an MB mechanic that the 4MATIC models must use the drain method because the front axle goes through the oil pan and the extractor can never get all the oil out. He claimed that at least 1-2L will remain with the extractor method.
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Good thread guys. I live in Hawaii would you guys recommend 5w40? Also I will probably use the drain. I don’t know why but I’ve never liked the idea of using a pump. No reason really just have drained it from the sump for about 15 years now
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Consider a mityvac fluid excavator.. about $80
I use this for 4 years now, over 150,000 miles in oil changes.
I buy two 5L jugs of Mobil 1, 0w-40 European Spec from Walmart for about $25 each. I get the filter from the dealer for about $17-22 (not much more than aftermarket).
Its easier with extractor because the filter is accessed on top, the whole process can be done in less than 15 minutes, without even getting dirty.
However, I only extract on Service A intervals and during Service Bs, I drain because it gives me the opportunity to go under the car to inspection.
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Consider a mityvac fluid excavator.. about $80
I use this for 4 years now, over 150,000 miles in oil changes.
I buy two 5L jugs of Mobil 1, 0w-40 European Spec from Walmart for about $25 each. I get the filter from the dealer for about $17-22 (not much more than aftermarket).
Its easier with extractor because the filter is accessed on top, the whole process can be done in less than 15 minutes, without even getting dirty.
However, I only extract on Service A intervals and during Service Bs, I drain because it gives me the opportunity to go under the car to inspection.
which one do you use. I see a few different ones. And is it just a hose you run to the bottom of the sump through your dipstick? Anything else I would need to purchase.
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which one do you use. I see a few different ones. And is it just a hose you run to the bottom of the sump through your dipstick? Anything else I would need to purchase.
7201 Plus model. Nothing else needed to purchase, simple as just sucking out of the dip tube with the supplied tubes.

https://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemD...iABEgK8pvD_BwE
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7201 Plus model. Nothing else needed to purchase, simple as just sucking out of the dip tube with the supplied tubes.

https://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemD...iABEgK8pvD_BwE
awsome. I’m glad you posted that I see it can pump the used oil out. I was about to get the 7400 which is just a hand pump. Thanks a lot
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I was told by my friend who is an MB mechanic that the 4MATIC models must use the drain method because the front axle goes through the oil pan and the extractor can never get all the oil out. He claimed that at least 1-2L will remain with the extractor method.
My friend's comments were not the most accurate. I had to change the engine oil today on my W204 C300 4MATIC Sport and using the extractor and the gromet sucked 6.8-9.6L out of 7.0L. I then drained it from the bottom and the remaining 0.1-0.2L drained out.

I'll probably alternate draining every other time.
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Forgive me to say that are some of you guys maybe making a mountain out of a mole hill? Motul, here, is really difficult to get, and really expensive, and Mobil 1 0W40 is really easy to get and really cheap.

Why is there such a push for Motul? From a UOA perspective, even this idiotic penguin can easily get 30,000km or so out of the engine oil based on a number of factors (flashpoint, TBN, etc). For the record, I change mine every 13,000km, but just saying that Mobil 1 lasts for freaking ever in this non DI/PFI engine.

So why the push for Motul? I feel like I'm missing something - perhaps it's easy to get in the US and/or cheap. Just asking
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Forgive me to say that are some of you guys maybe making a mountain out of a mole hill? Motul, here, is really difficult to get, and really expensive, and Mobil 1 0W40 is really easy to get and really cheap.

Why is there such a push for Motul? From a UOA perspective, even this idiotic penguin can easily get 30,000km or so out of the engine oil based on a number of factors (flashpoint, TBN, etc). For the record, I change mine every 13,000km, but just saying that Mobil 1 lasts for freaking ever in this non DI/PFI engine.

So why the push for Motul? I feel like I'm missing something - perhaps it's easy to get in the US and/or cheap. Just asking

I don't know what they are on about, I've always used Mobil 1 on all my vehicles and they've all lasted over 200k miles with no engine problems. My C300 is a prime example, with almost 300k on the clock, it has yet to burn any oil and the crank case still looks clean from the oil cap(No brown built up). Changing the oil on time is more important than what brand you use..
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Originally Posted by ltwargssf
I don't know what they are on about, I've always used Mobil 1 on all my vehicles and they've all lasted over 200k miles with no engine problems. My C300 is a prime example, with almost 300k on the clock, it has yet to burn any oil and the crank case still looks clean from the oil cap(No brown built up). Changing the oil on time is more important than what brand you use..
Absolutely agree. Spending money for Motul is something I would not hesitate to do, if there was a reason to do it, or an engine that required, what a Group 5 ester oil last I checked? If one was talking about a tracked C63, I get it, but on our daily driver C250/300/350s? That seems like an absolute waste of money!

To each their own. I was just reading this thread feeling like an idiot. I felt like people could be buying Motul at the same price as Mobil 1, and I was sitting here expecting to go "holy crap, those lucky Americans!", but perhaps it isn't turning out as I thought.
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I use Castrol 0W40. If I wanted the best, I'd opt for Joe Gibbs DT40. It's full synthetic developed for water cooled Porsches and extreme heat resistance.

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