2013 w204 c250 - crankcase pressure from oil cap
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antboii (01-15-2024)
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Great news! So do you think it would be ok to replace with a one similar to the original?
AAZ Preferred Plus Valve Cover; Includes Valve Cover Gasket | 2710101730
Or do you think the quality of the metal one is better/required to fix the issue?
Richard
AAZ Preferred Plus Valve Cover; Includes Valve Cover Gasket | 2710101730
Or do you think the quality of the metal one is better/required to fix the issue?
Richard
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Great news! So do you think it would be ok to replace with a one similar to the original?
AAZ Preferred Plus Valve Cover; Includes Valve Cover Gasket | 2710101730
Or do you think the quality of the metal one is better/required to fix the issue?
Richard
AAZ Preferred Plus Valve Cover; Includes Valve Cover Gasket | 2710101730
Or do you think the quality of the metal one is better/required to fix the issue?
Richard
Hey @Richard Koop if you want to go with an OEM plastic style VC, I'd buy the real deal From a site like this:
https://www.mercedesbenzofwarwick.co...1sNC1nYXM%253D
you can usually get it online cheaper on the stealership website OR cross reference the OEM part number on eBay/Amazon.
My experience with the AAZ warehouse branded item wasn't 100% perfect. And that was while I was installing the new VC. I bought the AAZ oil filter housing. If I have to ever do that again I'm not going to cheap out, I'm going oem.
The aluminum valve cover - it's fckin cool as hell. BUT I had to add 2 washers to the front most bolts on both sides. The plastic PCV pipe and vacuum hose/screw was difficult to line up. The oil dip stick screw is different thread on the aluminum valve cover. The one I received is machine screw threads. So, if you plan to go with the aluminum be prepared for that. Other than that, it's identical and I love it. Definitely cool to do it on the 1st VC change. But, if I ever have to do the VC again I would probably just buy OEM
And I wouldn't suggest buying the AAZ. I'm skeptical.. it might work and you could be fine. But that's just me after my experience I had with the AAZ oil filter housing. The oil cap stem came with a filter attached and was LODGED in there. IThe filter stem separated from the filter cap. had to pull so damn hard to get the stem out. I ended up using the OEM oil filter cap (as I originally planned) but I had a heart attack WTF moment after buttoning up the oil filter housing.
Sorry for the long winded answer. Just want to be transparent and let you know what happened in my experience.
I love the aluminum valve cover but some slight modifications and finagling was needed. I don't believe it is required to fix the problem. I'm absolutely sure a new VC plastic or aluminum will fix the issue. It's all preference.
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Great information. I'll probably tackle that job come spring.
The valve cover looks so simple. I'm trying to understand what could be plugged in that system. I'm wondering if a good cleaning (once removed) out of the breather connections in the valve cover (compressed air / suction) might be worth trying. Doesn't look like there's any moving parts in there.
It might be one of those things though that once you get it removed just replace it.
Richard
The valve cover looks so simple. I'm trying to understand what could be plugged in that system. I'm wondering if a good cleaning (once removed) out of the breather connections in the valve cover (compressed air / suction) might be worth trying. Doesn't look like there's any moving parts in there.
It might be one of those things though that once you get it removed just replace it.
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Great information. I'll probably tackle that job come spring.
The valve cover looks so simple. I'm trying to understand what could be plugged in that system. I'm wondering if a good cleaning (once removed) out of the breather connections in the valve cover (compressed air / suction) might be worth trying. Doesn't look like there's any moving parts in there.
It might be one of those things though that once you get it removed just replace it.
Richard
The valve cover looks so simple. I'm trying to understand what could be plugged in that system. I'm wondering if a good cleaning (once removed) out of the breather connections in the valve cover (compressed air / suction) might be worth trying. Doesn't look like there's any moving parts in there.
It might be one of those things though that once you get it removed just replace it.
Richard
in any case, Mercedes should make this a maintenance item. It appears to affect ALOT of c250’s/M271evo’s if not all of them. I agree with you, if it’s off just replace it vs. going through all the trouble trying to clean it.
Even though it wasn’t that hard of a job, I would feel more comfortable with a new one. You do have to pull all the coils, wiring harness, AOS pipe and vacuum line. Plus new gaskets. If your spark plugs are due, it would be a good time to do those and coils. Since you’ll be right there. 🫡
Just change it and be done for another ~100k miles. My older buddy says “I’d rather do it right than over”
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Im curious to see what it looks like in there. With the M272 engine the pcv on the passenger side clearly fails by the oil drip pan spinning in the cover and the parts wear down. But the oil separator cover on the drivers side has no moving parts and instead just baffle type things, that I just took apart and cleaned out. Im thinking maybe that hose deteriorates or gets clogged over time. And obviously the gaskets compress and deteriorate.
If theres no moving parts i dont see why it cant be flushed with some type of solvent cleaner.
I was wondering what everyone has the oil level at. With the M272 the manual says to fill it so its between the Min and Max markings. It also says it takes 2 quarts of oil to fill it from Min to the Max lines. So I'm wondering if someone fills it to the Max line does that mean its over filled by 1 quart? When I search for reasons why the cover leaks one of the reasons is the oil level is too high. I'm not meaning the oil level is way over filled, but more like over time its causing the issue.
If theres no moving parts i dont see why it cant be flushed with some type of solvent cleaner.
I was wondering what everyone has the oil level at. With the M272 the manual says to fill it so its between the Min and Max markings. It also says it takes 2 quarts of oil to fill it from Min to the Max lines. So I'm wondering if someone fills it to the Max line does that mean its over filled by 1 quart? When I search for reasons why the cover leaks one of the reasons is the oil level is too high. I'm not meaning the oil level is way over filled, but more like over time its causing the issue.
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Im curious to see what it looks like in there. With the M272 engine the pcv on the passenger side clearly fails by the oil drip pan spinning in the cover and the parts wear down. But the oil separator cover on the drivers side has no moving parts and instead just baffle type things, that I just took apart and cleaned out. Im thinking maybe that hose deteriorates or gets clogged over time. And obviously the gaskets compress and deteriorate.
If theres no moving parts i dont see why it cant be flushed with some type of solvent cleaner.
I was wondering what everyone has the oil level at. With the M272 the manual says to fill it so its between the Min and Max markings. It also says it takes 2 quarts of oil to fill it from Min to the Max lines. So I'm wondering if someone fills it to the Max line does that mean its over filled by 1 quart? When I search for reasons why the cover leaks one of the reasons is the oil level is too high. I'm not meaning the oil level is way over filled, but more like over time its causing the issue.
If theres no moving parts i dont see why it cant be flushed with some type of solvent cleaner.
I was wondering what everyone has the oil level at. With the M272 the manual says to fill it so its between the Min and Max markings. It also says it takes 2 quarts of oil to fill it from Min to the Max lines. So I'm wondering if someone fills it to the Max line does that mean its over filled by 1 quart? When I search for reasons why the cover leaks one of the reasons is the oil level is too high. I'm not meaning the oil level is way over filled, but more like over time its causing the issue.
I will be cutting the old valve cover open this weekend to see what’s going on in there.
will upload pics of what I find for everyone to see.
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Team,
see pics below of the valve cover. I was able to separate it and found that it is 3 separate pieces.
I use a chisel, hammer, and wiz wheel.
the top piece is a cover to the centrifuge and check valve.
the middle piece is an air chamber/passage way. It appeared to be sludged and gummed up. Definitely a failure point. It is causing the check valve to stick under low pressure/low rpm.
It definitely is not all sludge as I used a wiz wheel. But I took my finger and a small pic and was getting sludge and gunk out of the corner of the valve cover.
Hope this answers all of our questions !
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see pics below of the valve cover. I was able to separate it and found that it is 3 separate pieces.
I use a chisel, hammer, and wiz wheel.
the top piece is a cover to the centrifuge and check valve.
the middle piece is an air chamber/passage way. It appeared to be sludged and gummed up. Definitely a failure point. It is causing the check valve to stick under low pressure/low rpm.
It definitely is not all sludge as I used a wiz wheel. But I took my finger and a small pic and was getting sludge and gunk out of the corner of the valve cover.
Hope this answers all of our questions !
ant
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Engine bay upgrade- w204 c250
New engine bay look. Aluminum Valve cover and modal works intake. “Like nothing happened”
Side view of the aluminum valve cover. Looks very factory.
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Great pics. Thanks. I'll definitely think about replacing my wife's valve cover in the spring. That's a fairly closed system. So not sure cleaning it out would be possible.
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I posted 2 videos of this to my YouTube channel.
You can check them out there. Just search: antboiis-garage on YouTube. And youll see i posted 2 short videos.
They should give you a good explanation how it works.
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Is this similar to what you saw before?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=u8N5c...ature=youtu.be
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=u8N5c...ature=youtu.be
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Is this similar to what you saw before?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=u8N5c...ature=youtu.be
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=u8N5c...ature=youtu.be
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