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Recently my economic situation changed a bit after seeling my company, and I have been thinking about preordering the new c180 K for when it gets available for delivery here in Norway (early August). I`ve worked for two years within MB Norway and have quite a few good contacts. Still I can`t really get the info I need about this car. The fact sheets states this modell has 154 b/hp (EU) with the 1.8 litre kompressor feed engine, but I`m curious about the possibilities to tune this engine. My father has always been a Benz man and have got a W211 E 200K Estate tuned to 220 b/hp by Kleeman, but I wonder how difficult it would be to tune the W204 180K to the same b/hp and torque. What is the difference between this engine and a 200 K, and is there anything (tuningwise) on the marked for the new 180 K engine at this moment?
The reason I ask this, and the reason I want to buy the C180 K, is because cars are extremely expensive here in Norway. The more hp, displacement and co2 emissions your car have, the more you pay. A SL 65 AMG would be about 400.000 USD here, just to have a comparison....
Actually the hp tax kicks in from 150 b/hp, which makes the C180 K the most sensible choice of all (economic wise). That means any car over 150 b/hp gets 250 USD tax increase per b/hp exceeding 150. If I can get the C180 K cheap and tune it up by about 70 b/hp, it would be a "bargain". 70 b/hp in after market tuning above the 150 b/hp tax limit, means 17.500 USD less in tax on a new car. The Benz would still be about 55.000 USD here in Norway, and that`s a mayor investment when your`e making about 120.000 USD per year.
In addition I need input on colours and equipment. Usually I do not like white cars, but on the W204 it`s just seems magnificent atm. What kind of options should I go for to make the car look and feel as sporty as possible?
I live in Northern Europe and get a few extra arctic options for free (battery, heating and so on). I`ve already decided to go with the 6-speed (5.000 USD off) and the full command system, but I`m open for any suggestions. Seems like you guys have good taste and are experienced enough to give some good advice. Myself, I`ve never owned a Benz, even if my family has had about 20 of those Stuttgart wonders. I`m thinking of help with colour, wheels, rims, interior, suspension etc etc... Anything optional really... If you could choose a C180 K for free with everything of options, what would you choose? Ranking the options with priority 1-10 would be good as a pointer. I know a lousy C180 K seems like a small deal to many of you here, but to me it`s the greatest investmet of my life. Therefore I want this car to be as close to perfection as possible.
I`m a merc fan, even though I find mercs or cars genereally to be a lousy investment. It`s all about feeling, or maybe feeling well,... It`s like traveling and experiencing exotic countries, is also very expensive and burns your cash like crazy, but still it`s about feelings and experiences. A good experience and a good feeling is what I hope to get in my Benz.... Maybe not the best place to put your money, but it could still be the best feeling you`ll ever get in a car!
I`ve been following Formula 1 since I was about 12 years old, and just admire the way Mercedes combine sport and class. Actually I created a travel business for F1 fans a few years ago. This has made me an even greater MB fan and now I want to experience the Benz feeling close up. Naturally I want to take this opportunity to go to the factory and pick the car up myself to get the full tour.
I really need some input on this one guys, both on engine tuning and options. The options I have to order from the factory in Stuttgart, but the tuning I most probably would get from Kleeman or another third party supplier. Kleeman`s international HQ in Denmark is only a few houres driving from here, so that would be the natural option for tuning. I think a car with the weight of a c-class and with a 200+ b/hp kompressor engine, would be perfect for me as an every day ride. Good fuel economy, great comfort, even greater safety and certianly the greatest satisfaction. BTW: Anyone know the estimated weight of the W204 C180 K?
Last edited by PolarStar; Jan 27, 2007 at 10:18 PM.
Recently my economic situation changed a bit after seeling my company, and I have been thinking about preordering the new c180 K for when it gets available for delivery here in Norway (early August). I`ve worked for two years within MB Norway and have quite a few good contacts. Still I can`t really get the info I need about this car. The fact sheets states this modell has 154 b/hp (EU) with the 1.8 litre kompressor feed engine, but I`m curious about the possibilities to tune this engine. My father has always been a Benz man and have got a W211 E 200K Estate tuned to 220 b/hp by Kleeman, but I wonder how difficult it would be to tune the W204 180K to the same b/hp and torque. What is the difference between this engine and a 200 K, and is there anything (tuningwise) on the marked for the new 180 K engine at this moment?
The reason I ask this, and the reason I want to buy the C180 K, is because cars are extremely expensive here in Norway. The more hp, displacement and co2 emissions your car have, the more you pay. A SL 65 AMG would be about 400.000 USD here, just to have a comparison....
Actually the hp tax kicks in from 150 b/hp, which makes the C180 K the most sensible choice of all (economic wise). That means any car over 150 b/hp gets 250 USD tax increase per b/hp exceeding 150. If I can get the C180 K cheap and tune it up by about 70 b/hp, it would be a "bargain". 70 b/hp in after market tuning above the 150 b/hp tax limit, means 17.500 USD less in tax on a new car. The Benz would still be about 55.000 USD here in Norway, and that`s a mayor investment when your`e making about 120.000 USD per year.
In addition I need input on colours and equipment. Usually I do not like white cars, but on the W204 it`s just seems magnificent atm. What kind of options should I go for to make the car look and feel as sporty as possible?
I live in Northern Europe and get a few extra arctic options for free (battery, heating and so on). I`ve already decided to go with the 6-speed (5.000 USD off) and the full command system, but I`m open for any suggestions. Seems like you guys have good taste and are experienced enough to give some good advice. Myself, I`ve never owned a Benz, even if my family has had about 20 of those Stuttgart wonders. I`m thinking of help with colour, wheels, rims, interior, suspension etc etc... Anything optional really... If you could choose a C180 K for free with everything of options, what would you choose? Ranking the options with priority 1-10 would be good as a pointer. I know a lousy C180 K seems like a small deal to many of you here, but to me it`s the greatest investmet of my life. Therefore I want this car to be as close to perfection as possible.
I`m a merc fan, even though I find mercs or cars genereally to be a lousy investment. It`s all about feeling, or maybe feeling well,... It`s like traveling and experiencing exotic countries, is also very expensive and burns your cash like crazy, but still it`s about feelings and experiences. A good experience and a good feeling is what I hope to get in my Benz.... Maybe not the best place to put your money, but it could still be the best feeling you`ll ever get in a car!
I`ve been following Formula 1 since I was about 12 years old, and just admire the way Mercedes combine sport and class. Actually I created a travel business for F1 fans a few years ago. This has made me an even greater MB fan and now I want to experience the Benz feeling close up. Naturally I want to take this opportunity to go to the factory and pick the car up myself to get the full tour.
I really need some input on this one guys, both on engine tuning and options. The options I have to order from the factory in Stuttgart, but the tuning I most probably would get from Kleeman or another third party supplier. Kleeman`s international HQ in Denmark is only a few houres driving from here, so that would be the natural option for tuning. I think a car with the weight of a c-class and with a 200+ b/hp kompressor engine, would be perfect for me as an every day ride. Good fuel economy, great comfort, even greater safety and certianly the greatest satisfaction. BTW: Anyone know the estimated weight of the W204 C180 K?
I still don't think the car flows very well, the lines look choppy....and man does the non-amg body look ugly! Even though the sport steering wheel looks anorexic I still do think the overall interior looks more plush...
The question I have is: what happens if you don't get the navigation option, will you still have a pop up display or will you not have any display??
http://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-b...c-class/20.htm
http://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-b...c-class/20.htm
I like your idea of changing the headrests to W203 ones. I am pretty sure that the two chrome posts are the same spread on all of the cars so it might work.









