W205 Discount challenge!
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a few
I went into the dealership last night to try and secure the lease. I wasn't given any clear printout on the potential lease offer (I think the main thing missing was the cap cost, which they did not give me).
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
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Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 13
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From: Tampa
2015 C300
I went into the dealership last night to try and secure the lease. I wasn't given any clear printout on the potential lease offer (I think the main thing missing was the cap cost, which they did not give me).
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
I personally didn't sweat that my numbers didn't match exactly. In the end, I got the car I wanted for the price I requested, $340/month, nothing down. Other than my money factor (about 4.3% APR) I didn't see anything fishy. Mine was upped a tad because of my credit. Score was good but I'm only 22 so you can only expect so much.
I think you can get that car for $340/month nothing down as well, if not lower. I'm just not a great negotiator when it comes to things I want!
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From: Boston Area
2021 Mojave Silver E450, 2024 Black on Black Jaguar F-pace P400, 2011 335d (RIP), 2010 E350 (sold)
I went into the dealership last night to try and secure the lease. I wasn't given any clear printout on the potential lease offer (I think the main thing missing was the cap cost, which they did not give me).
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
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Posts: 13
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From: Tampa
2015 C300
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Barely used C300 - how to value it?
Dear forum users,
I was offered a $42,000 purchase price for a 2016 C300 (original MSRP:$50,350). The vehicle is used, but with only 165 miles. It was sold but then for some reason returned to the dealer. Dealer says that it was because wife of the guy who purchased it did not like it (not sure if it is true though...).
Anyway, the car is technically used, so I am having a hard time valuing it. Would anyone have any insights on how much more discount I could get? The $42K price is advertised on the internet, so I am assuming they would settle for even lower.
Thank you
I was offered a $42,000 purchase price for a 2016 C300 (original MSRP:$50,350). The vehicle is used, but with only 165 miles. It was sold but then for some reason returned to the dealer. Dealer says that it was because wife of the guy who purchased it did not like it (not sure if it is true though...).
Anyway, the car is technically used, so I am having a hard time valuing it. Would anyone have any insights on how much more discount I could get? The $42K price is advertised on the internet, so I am assuming they would settle for even lower.
Thank you
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 12
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a few
I went into the dealership last night to try and secure the lease. I wasn't given any clear printout on the potential lease offer (I think the main thing missing was the cap cost, which they did not give me).
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
I think it ended up being a pretty good deal (even though I let the dealer pocket some extra money)
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C450, GLC43
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Current :2018 E63S and a 2018 GLE 63S . Prior, CLA 250, C450, 2017 AMG C63S
I received $3000 off MSRP of my 2016 AMG C450 through me American Bar Association membership. Then an additional $3000.00 off to get to the payment amount I wanted to be at.
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MB C300
Thanks! I had more than one dealer offer a similar deal. To clarify, it's more like 14.8% to be exact and assumes the current ABA discount of $2k stays the same upon delivery in summer. But afaik the ABA and incentives in general are low now, so there's a chance my deal could get even better if summer incentives are higher when I take delivery. Does anyone know if MB raised or lowered incentives in May/June last year?
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2014 c300
Hello, I got back from my dealer and was offered $423/mo on a 10K mile lease. Taxes, bank fees 795 and plates transfer 151. I was told I'm getting 5,500 off MSRP.
2016 c300 Sports Model has sunroof, mirror alerts, camera, key less entry. The biggest thing to consider is I'm paying the full lease ahead of time. I'm getting 3 years warranty included. This is w/ the early return of a 2014 C300, and using the March Madness MB promotion. I know my salesperson is giving me a better deal this time around, but still very far from 15% anyone have tips? Last time I used a 2% CB credit card to pay the full lease, I might have to do the same this time around and combine it with some further negotiating.
I don't qualify for ABA or AMA etc.
2016 c300 Sports Model has sunroof, mirror alerts, camera, key less entry. The biggest thing to consider is I'm paying the full lease ahead of time. I'm getting 3 years warranty included. This is w/ the early return of a 2014 C300, and using the March Madness MB promotion. I know my salesperson is giving me a better deal this time around, but still very far from 15% anyone have tips? Last time I used a 2% CB credit card to pay the full lease, I might have to do the same this time around and combine it with some further negotiating.
I don't qualify for ABA or AMA etc.
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MB C300
Hello, I got back from my dealer and was offered $423/mo on a 10K mile lease. Taxes, bank fees 795 and plates transfer 151. I was told I'm getting 5,500 off MSRP.
2016 c300 Sports Model has sunroof, mirror alerts, camera, key less entry. The biggest thing to consider is I'm paying the full lease ahead of time. I'm getting 3 years warranty included. This is w/ the early return of a 2014 C300, and using the March Madness MB promotion. I know my salesperson is giving me a better deal this time around, but still very far from 15% anyone have tips? Last time I used a 2% CB credit card to pay the full lease, I might have to do the same this time around and combine it with some further negotiating.
I don't qualify for ABA or AMA etc.
2016 c300 Sports Model has sunroof, mirror alerts, camera, key less entry. The biggest thing to consider is I'm paying the full lease ahead of time. I'm getting 3 years warranty included. This is w/ the early return of a 2014 C300, and using the March Madness MB promotion. I know my salesperson is giving me a better deal this time around, but still very far from 15% anyone have tips? Last time I used a 2% CB credit card to pay the full lease, I might have to do the same this time around and combine it with some further negotiating.
I don't qualify for ABA or AMA etc.
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Supra TT, Acura ITR
Hey fellow Canadians!
I am looking to get myself into a C450. The one available from the dealership comes with Premium Package, Active headlights, dark ash, and 360 cam. Lease $999/month after tax with $2900 down. Is that a 'good deal'? Its my very first time leasing a car and I've been bargaining them for a week now using my insane offer from BMW 435i GranCoupe as it's eol for that model.
Thanks in advance
I am looking to get myself into a C450. The one available from the dealership comes with Premium Package, Active headlights, dark ash, and 360 cam. Lease $999/month after tax with $2900 down. Is that a 'good deal'? Its my very first time leasing a car and I've been bargaining them for a week now using my insane offer from BMW 435i GranCoupe as it's eol for that model.
Thanks in advance
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c300
2016 C300 MSRP: 51,350
14% + 2k fleet discount
sale price: 42,161
That's 18% off, baby. Couldn't find any dealer willing to beat that. When the other dealers told me "it's a good deal, grab it", I know it's a good deal :-)
14% + 2k fleet discount
sale price: 42,161
That's 18% off, baby. Couldn't find any dealer willing to beat that. When the other dealers told me "it's a good deal, grab it", I know it's a good deal :-)
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From: New York
2014 E350 Coupe (previous), 2016 C450 AMG Sport (previous), 2020 GLE450 (previous), 2021 S580 (now)
Hey fellow Canadians!
I am looking to get myself into a C450. The one available from the dealership comes with Premium Package, Active headlights, dark ash, and 360 cam. Lease $999/month after tax with $2900 down. Is that a 'good deal'? Its my very first time leasing a car and I've been bargaining them for a week now using my insane offer from BMW 435i GranCoupe as it's eol for that model.
Thanks in advance
I am looking to get myself into a C450. The one available from the dealership comes with Premium Package, Active headlights, dark ash, and 360 cam. Lease $999/month after tax with $2900 down. Is that a 'good deal'? Its my very first time leasing a car and I've been bargaining them for a week now using my insane offer from BMW 435i GranCoupe as it's eol for that model.
Thanks in advance
Using your offer from BMW won't help you much in this case. Not only is it not an apples-to-apples comparison, but it seems like BMW has been giving their cars away lately.
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From: New York
2014 E350 Coupe (previous), 2016 C450 AMG Sport (previous), 2020 GLE450 (previous), 2021 S580 (now)
That's ridiculous. They must have used an employee deal control number to get to that price. That's the only way something like that makes sense, unless you're not telling us that it was an ex-loaner or demo with mileage.
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c300
Yeah, "ridiculous" is what some of the other dealers told me. Trust me, it wasn't easy. They didn't just offer that to my face. There was a lot of back & forth, bidding between dealers, and initially, the GM "respectfully" declined my offer. But in the end, I won. And yes, the car was brand new. In fact, I negotiated the discount percentage first so I could basically pick any cars when I come in. So, the negotiated price wasn't over any particular car, and I did that intentionally.
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From: Los Angeles
2019 C43 AMG, 2017 Porsche Macan S, 2017 Mazda 3 HB
I'm super happy that I've finally graduated to AMG. Been waiting over a decade to get one. Today, I put in my order and I was able to negotiate $6500 off my custom-order 2016 Mercedes-AMG C63 S!!
MSRP: $90,475
Color: Steel Grey Metallic
Wheels: 19-inch AMG cross-spoke forged (Black)
Interior Color: Black Nappa leather w/Grey accents
Trim: Natural Grain Black Ash Wood
Lighting Package
Panorama roof
Air Balance Package
Power rear-window sunshade
AMG Performance front seats
HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package
AMG Head-Up Display
Parking Assist Package
PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist
Surround View System
Driver Assistance Package
AMG Dynamic Performance Exhaust
MSRP: $90,475
Color: Steel Grey Metallic
Wheels: 19-inch AMG cross-spoke forged (Black)
Interior Color: Black Nappa leather w/Grey accents
Trim: Natural Grain Black Ash Wood
Lighting Package
Panorama roof
Air Balance Package
Power rear-window sunshade
AMG Performance front seats
HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package
AMG Head-Up Display
Parking Assist Package
PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist
Surround View System
Driver Assistance Package
AMG Dynamic Performance Exhaust
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 236
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From: Florida
2013 ML350 Bluetec, 2016 C3, 2020 Lincoln Aviator
Purchased a new 2016 C300 a week and a half ago. Got 15.3% off which included a $2000 EAB through the American Dental Assoc. My local dealer couldn't come close and didn't have the car I wanted so I drove to Miami. Everything was done over the internet.
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From: San Jose
2016 C450 AMG, 2009 C300, 2001 C320 2001 CLK430, 95 E500
I'm super happy that I've finally graduated to AMG. Been waiting over a decade to get one. Today, I put in my order and I was able to negotiate $6500 off my custom-order 2016 Mercedes-AMG C63 S!!
MSRP: $90,475
Color: Steel Grey Metallic
Wheels: 19-inch AMG cross-spoke forged (Black)
Interior Color: Black Nappa leather w/Grey accents
Trim: Natural Grain Black Ash Wood
Lighting Package
Panorama roof
Air Balance Package
Power rear-window sunshade
AMG Performance front seats
HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package
AMG Head-Up Display
Parking Assist Package
PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist
Surround View System
Driver Assistance Package
AMG Dynamic Performance Exhaust
MSRP: $90,475
Color: Steel Grey Metallic
Wheels: 19-inch AMG cross-spoke forged (Black)
Interior Color: Black Nappa leather w/Grey accents
Trim: Natural Grain Black Ash Wood
Lighting Package
Panorama roof
Air Balance Package
Power rear-window sunshade
AMG Performance front seats
HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package
AMG Head-Up Display
Parking Assist Package
PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist
Surround View System
Driver Assistance Package
AMG Dynamic Performance Exhaust
wow, I would have thought one could do at least 10% on such a car..nice kit though.
