MASSC450

I press enough buttons in my life everyday (and apparently yours as well), and this "feature" is just plain stupid as it's set up currently. It's as if the Mercedes engineers didn't take into affect "real life" scenarios.

scrambler900

Not pressing my buttons, I think it's hilarious that people actually think it's a problem. HaHaHa

I guess I just have better things to worry about

hpilot

I don't think "worry" is the right word when you express frustration over a stupid irritating design. I just wish someone would come up with a software hack for this.

gfmohn

Ahh..., the monkey trap of MBWorld.org strikes again! Once these owners reach in and grab ahold of this issue, they can't let go! I have written elsewhere that what these owners really hate is what they fear this minor feature reveals about Mercedes' larger direction - ever increasing loss of driver decision-making. (I too believe that if these owners want the last of the real driving machines, they have simply bought the wrong car.)

PaulE550

Best summation of this topic that I've seen so far.

hpilot

That is something my wife would say. She always gets annoyed at me when I try to find a more efficient less irritating way to do something. She says I am just being lazy. I should just suck it up and do it the hard way like everybody else. Yes, I guess I am doomed...

Mike5215

It's not the inconvenience as much as resentment at a manufacturer deciding for me how a feature defaults, essentially substituting their judgment for my own.

I'm in the habit of three quick taps on the Dynamic settings to get to Individualized, which has it off, but I know on the 221 at least, which in 2010 started defaulting the tranny to Comfort at each start, a tech with STAR could defeat that. Not sure on the 205.

z28lt1

My own guess, not based upon a known fact, but MB isn't likely substituting their judgement, but are trying to get better fuel economy numbers. I believe in the US, if you use features in your EPA "testing" than those features must be on when the car starts by default. So, if they used the comfort mode throttle mapping and the auto-stop to figure economy, than it has to default that way, no matter what we like. Many of us would happly take a small reduction in fuel economy to have these features off, but for CAFE reasons, MB will want to milk the numbers as much as possible.

So, we'll all have to push the button when we start (or go to a different mode) to help out MB's CAFE numbers.

Personally, I don't actually mind the "feature" as much as I thought I would. I wish I noticed it less, but it is quick enough that it doesn't really impact my driving. Weirdest thing is when I pull into a parking spot or garage and it shuts off, and then when I put the car in park, it turns back on, just so I can shut it off again. One of these days I'm going to accidentally leave the car running.

hpilot

That same scenario on a different car almost killed a mother and child from CO poisoning recently. The garage door was closed, and the car was still running.

cidtek

This ^^^^^

midcityeng

Mid City Engineering is now offering an Eco Off™ interface as well as automatic individual mode select. Call us at 312-421-1114 to place your order.

bellavance

To each his own, but I can't see why someone would want to burn fuel while sitting at a stoplight. With time (I've had it for almost two years on my 2015 C300) you don't even notice it stopping and restarting the engine.

hpilot

1) When the engine turns off, so does the A/C. Within about 20 second or so the stifling heat build up triggers the engine to start. This will repeat every few seconds in stop and go traffic.

2) I notice when the engine starts - the whole car shakes. No, it is not broken, I had it checked out.

3) Watching my wife try to position the car at exactly the right spot in the garage is hilarious. The engine stops and starts probably four or five times in the span of a few seconds.

4) Fuel is cheap. Talk to me when it is $10/gal.

hpilot

How about a link to more information and reviews.

benzw205

So true ! I agree with you ! The start and stop is not smooth, I tried it on different C-class.

So stupid also to stop when you are waiting to be able to turn right or left.

scrambler900

The start stop is smooth, and it is not stupid o stop when the car isn't moving. It is you that cannot accept it

SteveE400

To each, his own.


I personally do not like it. I often find myself in situations where the split-second starting lag makes the difference between getting through an opening in traffic and sitting there waiting another 5 minutes until all the traffic lights are just right again.


OTOH, my wife loves it on her GLK. Hers is smoother re-starting the 350 than my E400 is, and it seldom causes her any problem. She spends a lot of time stuck in stop-and-go freeway traffic, and just does fine.


It is just another button to press or not. Why all the uproar?

midcityeng

Below is the link to the website. Due to the product being very new I do not have any written reviews I can direct you to, but your satisfaction is guaranteed or your money back.

http://www.midcityengineering.com/oe...-mercedes-benz

cidtek

I talked to you guys about a year ago regarding a Sirius retro kit for W205 cars with Comand. Any progress?

netboy

most of the times, i drive in Comfort, why waste gas when you dont have to??
i only turn on Sport+ mode when i see a nice car and want to show off or maybe they wanna race. haha

midcityeng

Yes, we did complete a W205 Sirius retrofit for a local customer. Unfortunately the retrofit parts are as bit expensive, roughly $3,000. Also, the radio would need to be shipped to us.

cidtek

OK, thanks for the update.

Mike5215

How about use the Sirius smartphone companion app and use your phone as your Sirius source.

cidtek

I want traffic updates on my Nav.

Mike5215

Ahh. I have it, and it's not great. Slow to pick up on jams. We got caught in one for 45 minutes on I75 last week. Nothing from navi, but Google Maps had it immediately.