Sol01

agreed, sounds a bit like a motor journalist who got paid by Mercedes. and after reading his later comments I think I would ignore his reviews

Sol01

good one

c4004matic

As I said before, please feel free, I enjoy interacting with the reasonable people around here, but I will not shirk from calling someone and idiot when he does the same. Entirely you prerogative.

Glyn M Ruck

Good. Your future is short lived without an attitude change.

floridadriver

Didn't "get to shoot anyone" while in the military? That's offensive. US military officer? License on the wall? "Shrinks" in Florida? Oh boy. Think we learned you're kindove a know it all bully, not much more to this thread. I am sorry my saying your review was kinda just a pontification lead to all this nonsense.

Back to enjoying Christmas with the family. Peace everyone!

synaptik

every board needs villains. otherwise where's the entertainment?

miketc

Wow!! Merry Christmas everybody. It's a car forum after all and I wished you all well.

c4004matic

More clueless from you. I guess you think the military is our international ambassador of good will. Well let me wake you up buddy. The first refrain you are taught in basic training is: WHAT IS YOUR JOB: TO KILL; WHAT DO YOU DRINK: BLOOD
Since I never saw action I was never in a position to perform that fundamental duty. My job was to save the ones that were tasked with killing, comprende? Our job was and is to kill other people so clueless people like you may enjoy the "freedom" to buy Mercedeses.
Ho Ho Ho.

StanNH

I'm guessing these remarks may provoke some reaction from the many honored veterans on this forum.

c4004matic

Absolutely, if you ever meet a veteran that would deny exactly what I said there he didn't serve in the US armed forces. I did my ten years here and overseas, how many did Florida driver do?

HelenR

You alone have made it IMPOSSIBLE to believe anything you say on forums. To say you served this or any country in any way, shape or form with your attitude is a lie.

c4004matic

This why I'm almost sure you and Florida driver are the same person. Either that or there simply is a pervasive stupidity issue.

HelenR

As equally believable as your other posts. In other words, its NOT.

PeteInGilroy

Their writing styles are not even close. Your medical training should provide you the ability to compare and contrast something as simple as this.

hyperion667

suspension ooooh!

Sol01

what a numpty. this thread should be removed

StanNH

Actually, it's really been quite informative. I've already learned two new words; numpty and plonker.

Mark's M

Lol. I've been actually quite disappointed since recently joining the forum, hoping upon hope that there were a decent amount of knowledgeable enthusiasts around to discuss the new C and support the performance end of the non-AMG C spectrum...if there is such a thing? Very, very unlike Bimmerpost around here but I'm holding out and encouraged by the members (and Moderator) who aren't putting up with the garbage spewed by c4004Matic and his ridiculous and inaccurate info most of the time - not that he's the only one sadly.

But...I think I've figured out who's in the know and I'm looking forward to tapping them for info. The C450 will be intro'd in a few more weeks and as it's on my list (along with a couple of BMW's), I'll be focussing on how it's going to compare with the C300/C400 lines that most everyone here already owns. Also hope that this forum will formally adopt future C450 discussions because it needs a home and doesn't belong with the AMG cars.

HelenR

For those who are newbies like me, I completely agree. It's freakin' hard enough getting information on a brand new car. It's a shame you have to learn who is 'in the know' on the forum.

For sociopaths we have jails and moderators though. And thankfully I didn't spend time with anyone like that for the holidays, or ever. Can you imagine?

Glyn M Ruck

We will certainly make sure the C450 enjoys it's proper viewing at MBWorld & will be open to suggestions at any time for consideration.

Mark's M

Lol again!! Yes I can imagine!! I was a police officer for 32 years so I've encountered more than my share of sociopaths. Just about every day come to think of it. And boy, do I have some good Christmas stories speaking of sociopaths and holidays! Loved every second of it though and now teach it to the younger generation. Lol, it's almost been like old home week since I joined the forum but hey, as you said, live and learn. Cheers - Mark

Thank-you Glyn re the 450 offer. Fingers crossed that the car earns some space here.

synaptik

For what it's worth bmw generally attracts a younger, more performance oriented crowd. that's why bimmerpost is as massive as it is and why there's 10x more posts on the m340/340i. Hopefully this will steadily change as cars like the c450 attract members of that crowd such as myself. A generation ago I wouldn't have looked at a non-AMG mercedes for sporty driving.

Sol01

lol. that is funny cause on Bimmerpost ( and I am a long time member of that by the way ) they keep complaining about how soft BMW cars are becoming and that they aren't enthusiast cars anymore. I suppose you can't keep everybody happy.

coladin

I guess in the pursuit of sales, all of the major European car companies that were considered the best luxury brands have all diluted their cache by supplying cars for the masses.


BMWs were no compromise sport sedans. Mercedes were the bank vaults on wheels with big power. Audi was the Quattro alternative for those who desired 4WD. Porsches were sports cars, RWD, rear engine athletic cars. Range Rovers were the elitist SUV.


Now BMW has a FWD people hauler, SUVs, crossovers, and cars that fit almost every budget. Mercedes has FWD minivan style compacts, AWD throughout and fit every budget. Audi has A1, subcompacts, SUVs, FWD cars, A3, and other cars to fit all kinds of budgets. Porsches are now four door cars and SUVs, big and small. Range Rovers have Evoques, LR2, etc...to fit many price ranges.


The nice thing is that each brand still has their core value cars the represent the brand as they always have, while also allowing others to join the brand and retain them probably for the rest of their driving years


I guess what I'm getting at after all that, haha, is if someone wants a stiff Bimmer. they can have it, as well as a softly sprung one. And the automakers will continue to have record sales.

Mark's M

Last 3 posts.....true, true and true respectively. Sounds like MB is trying to do almost the opposite though with this push to expand their performance offerings through the new AMG Sport lineup. Which is a good thing IMHO for the entire MB range.

I read a recent article out of Spain suggesting the next BMW "M Performance" model, an M340, may be bumped into production much earlier (2015) than originally planned (2017/2018). BMW worried about the C450 lol???