Those in the snow belt...
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Those in the snow belt...
Just wondering how the 4matic is holding up with all the snow everyone's been having. Does it feel solid connected & sure footed? Would you rank it up there or equal with other brands all wheel drives (quattro, xdrive, subaru symmetrical etc)
being in Miami 4matic is pretty much just useful for having to quickly dodge a palm frond that has just fell into the roadway
being in Miami 4matic is pretty much just useful for having to quickly dodge a palm frond that has just fell into the roadway
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
I found 4-matic in my E550 was excellent, and just slightly inferior to the sh-awd on our 2014 acura mdx.
The MDX is front bias and has the torque vectoring blah blah -- and I feel this vehicle to be the most sure footed.
Our 2008 Infiniti G35x has the ATESSA AWD and this is the LEAST sure foot in the stable. All vehicles are/were equipped with all-season or ultra high performance all season tires with excellent tread life remaining.
Never drove an audi, suburu, or bimmer in the snow.
I don't drive the E63 4matic in the snow as I still have summers on it. I drive my parents' w210 1999 E320 4-matic in the snow, it has 33/66 split 4-matic and NO ESP (this was an option back then) and it is a bit dicey even in "W" (winter) mode... but this is largely i think due to no ESP -- I tried to convince my dad to get it, he declined.
I think modern 4-matic is solid with the right all season or winter tires in the snow and with that other optional feature ... common sense.
The MDX is front bias and has the torque vectoring blah blah -- and I feel this vehicle to be the most sure footed.
Our 2008 Infiniti G35x has the ATESSA AWD and this is the LEAST sure foot in the stable. All vehicles are/were equipped with all-season or ultra high performance all season tires with excellent tread life remaining.
Never drove an audi, suburu, or bimmer in the snow.
I don't drive the E63 4matic in the snow as I still have summers on it. I drive my parents' w210 1999 E320 4-matic in the snow, it has 33/66 split 4-matic and NO ESP (this was an option back then) and it is a bit dicey even in "W" (winter) mode... but this is largely i think due to no ESP -- I tried to convince my dad to get it, he declined.
I think modern 4-matic is solid with the right all season or winter tires in the snow and with that other optional feature ... common sense.
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I've owned Audi and Volvo AWD cars, and my C300 is as good as any of them. I have good snow tires on my C300, and have always run aggressive snows on all my cars, and I am very confident in this car's stability in the snow. It is a solid winter driver.
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I found 4-matic in my E550 was excellent, and just slightly inferior to the sh-awd on our 2014 acura mdx.
The MDX is front bias and has the torque vectoring blah blah -- and I feel this vehicle to be the most sure footed.
Our 2008 Infiniti G35x has the ATESSA AWD and this is the LEAST sure foot in the stable. All vehicles are/were equipped with all-season or ultra high performance all season tires with excellent tread life remaining.
Never drove an audi, suburu, or bimmer in the snow.
I don't drive the E63 4matic in the snow as I still have summers on it. I drive my parents' w210 1999 E320 4-matic in the snow, it has 33/66 split 4-matic and NO ESP (this was an option back then) and it is a bit dicey even in "W" (winter) mode... but this is largely i think due to no ESP -- I tried to convince my dad to get it, he declined.
I think modern 4-matic is solid with the right all season or winter tires in the snow and with that other optional feature ... common sense.
The MDX is front bias and has the torque vectoring blah blah -- and I feel this vehicle to be the most sure footed.
Our 2008 Infiniti G35x has the ATESSA AWD and this is the LEAST sure foot in the stable. All vehicles are/were equipped with all-season or ultra high performance all season tires with excellent tread life remaining.
Never drove an audi, suburu, or bimmer in the snow.
I don't drive the E63 4matic in the snow as I still have summers on it. I drive my parents' w210 1999 E320 4-matic in the snow, it has 33/66 split 4-matic and NO ESP (this was an option back then) and it is a bit dicey even in "W" (winter) mode... but this is largely i think due to no ESP -- I tried to convince my dad to get it, he declined.
I think modern 4-matic is solid with the right all season or winter tires in the snow and with that other optional feature ... common sense.
I find my E350 wagon just average in the snow, while my C400 is amazing. The only difference I can chalk it up to is my wagon has Pirellis and the C400 has Blizzaks?
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We're supposedly going to get about a foot of snow this weekend and I can't wait to try out the 4M system and my new Sottozeros!
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I run my c400 with blizzaks and its very good, smooth, same as my Audi q5 if not better.
My driveway is 200' and very steep and often snow-covered 5"+ if not icy when i get home in the evening. I just hit the 'raise vehicle' button and I have not had a problem yet going up.
My driveway is 200' and very steep and often snow-covered 5"+ if not icy when i get home in the evening. I just hit the 'raise vehicle' button and I have not had a problem yet going up.
#7
Well we got 10 inches Saturday and granted I didnt venture out until Sunday but they don't plow the alley where I park. Handled very well getting through it all. Impressed
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#8
My list of AWD cars is this: 2001 Audi s4, Mazdaspeed6, 2005 c240 wagon(current), 2015 c300(current). Both of the c class cars are running on Pirelli P7's and the wagon feels much more sure footed in the snow probably due to the weight and the tire size (16" rims). I often feel the back end sliding out and the 2015 c. I feel the 4matic taking over control of the throttle when I get excessive wheel spin from a stop and I'm having a hard time getting used to that. I feel that my sense of insecurity is due to the weakness of all seasons. The S4 was an absolute snow monster no matter what it had on its feet and definitely took the cake. The Mazda was horrible in the snow but made up for it in quickness. I am in Massachusetts so I have plenty of experience playing with my new car in the snow. Next year might be a set of blizzarks.
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Blizzaks are very good, but there are many other excellent choices out there, so don't limit yourself to just one brand.
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[QUOTE=StanNH;6341611]All-season tires are horrible in cold weather, and on snow and ice. My C300 loaner, that I had for nearly three weeks, was very marginal for winter driving and my wife refused to drive it with snow on the roads. It had the standard Conti all-seasons on it. My own C300, with four Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT snow tires, has been rock solid....
Do you have a separate set of rims? Do we need a BT module for tire pressure if we get a second set of rims and if so does the dealer have to calibrate? Thanks
-Matt
Do you have a separate set of rims? Do we need a BT module for tire pressure if we get a second set of rims and if so does the dealer have to calibrate? Thanks
-Matt
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[QUOTE=Matts2015c300;6341648]
For me, I picked up the sensors directly from Mercedes and they were installed into a new set of wheels and tires by an independent. No calibration or programming was needed and the car recognized the new sensors after a minute or so of driving.
All-season tires are horrible in cold weather, and on snow and ice. My C300 loaner, that I had for nearly three weeks, was very marginal for winter driving and my wife refused to drive it with snow on the roads. It had the standard Conti all-seasons on it. My own C300, with four Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT snow tires, has been rock solid....
Do you have a separate set of rims? Do we need a BT module for tire pressure if we get a second set of rims and if so does the dealer have to calibrate? Thanks
-Matt
Do you have a separate set of rims? Do we need a BT module for tire pressure if we get a second set of rims and if so does the dealer have to calibrate? Thanks
-Matt
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[QUOTE=jclboston;6341739]How much did they cost?
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[QUOTE=Matts2015c300;6342547]The sensors were about $270/set before tax. I had ordered them in early/mid January. When I picked them up at the dealership, I was told that I was one of the last individuals to be able to order the set as a kit and Mercedes now sells them individually for more (approx. $100ea. I believe).
I don't know if the above is still true. It may have been tied to supply/demand at the time. You can also try TireRack. They were supposed to get a big shipment of sensors in late Feb when I had approached them in January.
I don't know if the above is still true. It may have been tied to supply/demand at the time. You can also try TireRack. They were supposed to get a big shipment of sensors in late Feb when I had approached them in January.
#14
All-season tires are just OK in many kind of winter weather.
The worst is actually wet road (not standing water) just above freezing point. The rubber gets way too hard. Not as hard as summer tires but bad.
Non-packed snow is relatively better since at least M+S do at least have some cutting thread.
I will always have a set of winter wheels going forward, even if I lose access to a storage place.
The worst is actually wet road (not standing water) just above freezing point. The rubber gets way too hard. Not as hard as summer tires but bad.
Non-packed snow is relatively better since at least M+S do at least have some cutting thread.
I will always have a set of winter wheels going forward, even if I lose access to a storage place.