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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 02:49 PM
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So if the wind noise is produced by the mirrors..

Has anyone tried to fold in their mirrors while they hear the wind noise around the door frame?
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 04:11 PM
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Mine electric and won't fold in while driving, but tried putting tape and bunches of it to block flow between car and mirror and still sounded on upper portion like something not sealing ok. Air may not be coming in there, may even be from windshield. Anyone tapes in different spots to fix? I'm afraid we will have to solve this issue ourselves.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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I'd think if it was the wing mirrors, this would be a consistent issue on 100% of the cars. That said, some might not hear it, or might not be bothered by it. It seems more hit or miss, and some members post it didn't show up right away which makes me think rubber part. But I'm not a mechanic.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 06:06 PM
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I had mirror wind noise on a BMW that cropped up after a mirror assembly was replaced. It was due to a poorly installed rubber grommet that plugged an opening for wires. It took forever to discover this was the problem since no one thought of removing the mirror assembly to inspect the installation.
A similar assembly issue relating to the mirror sealing may be the cause or our wind noise. And, attention to detail of the mirror installation could lead to some cars having wind noise and others not. Just a thought.
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Old Mar 12, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mmaldin
I had mirror wind noise on a BMW that cropped up after a mirror assembly was replaced. It was due to a poorly installed rubber grommet that plugged an opening for wires. It took forever to discover this was the problem since no one thought of removing the mirror assembly to inspect the installation.
A similar assembly issue relating to the mirror sealing may be the cause or our wind noise. And, attention to detail of the mirror installation could lead to some cars having wind noise and others not. Just a thought.
That is a great thought! Might be onto something One member had an issue with morrow but resulted in wind coming in thru speaker but unsure if others have had mirror pulled.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 09:43 AM
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There is a clear difference in the mirrors of my car (Made in Germany december 2014)

Seems like at the driver's side the shield at the root of the mirror arm is not installed properly.






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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 09:58 AM
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There is a clear difference in the mirrors of my car (Made in Germany december 2014)

Seems like at the driver's side the shield at the root of the mirror arm is not installed properly.





Dealer and I noticed same discrepancy. Each car a little different in that are. Hmmmm...
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:06 AM
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To my eye, neither look great and expose a gap that could cause noise. Perhaps if you have this noise, try placing tape along the plastic edge that is standing proud and the silver car trim to see if this helps?


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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ManiacGT
Perhaps if you have this noise, try placing tape along the plastic edge that is standing proud and the silver car trim to see if this helps?
The small misalignment on the passenger side does not really bother me, as there is no wind noise on that side. I did however already place a piece of tape on the driver's side. I have not yet tested it though.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 03:24 PM
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From a review of the new C450 in portugal, seems like its a common theme still: It only takes a few kilometres to glean the C450 is almost as entertaining as its more potent stablemate, putting on a surprising turn of speed, and arguably even greater agility, although it weighs only slightly less at 1,615kg. The exhaust note is pleasingly raspy and crackly, too, despite lacking the deep baritone sonic signature of the C63 S.

Refinement levels are pretty good, although there’s more wind noise from around the A-pillar than one might have expected at speeds of 140kph and above. Cabin comfort is beyond reproach, with well-sculpted sports seats and a well-thought-out melange of leather, *Alcantara, aluminium and carbon-fibre surfaces. The dash layout is also first-class, presenting you with all the info you need in an easy-to-digest format.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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Super photos and labelling work. I sure hope that's part of the problem. And I'll wager as a few of the cars go through a summer and winter, more will be upset at the noise as it worsens.

Seems it would be easy enough to modify with a gasket change if that is an offending area. I'm with you. The look doesn't bother me. The noise, was unbearable for a car that's not a convertible.
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Here is a pic of the mirror alignment on the drivers side of my C400 (passenger side is the same). It looks like it's aligned perfectly. I don't have the wind noise problem. September 2014 build.

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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BenzC400


Here is a pic of the mirror alignment on the drivers side of my C400 (passenger side is the same). It looks like it's aligned perfectly. I don't have the wind noise problem. September 2014 build.


How these two cars leave the same factory with some human, assumably with at least 20/50 vision checking them and singing them off is beyond me.

That's cool you don't have noise and may be onto a potential source. It is most interesting that the rubber gasket doesn't fully meet the mirror especially towards the top, there's about a mm or two gap, though the alignment looks spot on at the end.
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Originally Posted by kellens
: It is most interesting that the rubber gasket doesn't fully meet the mirror especially towards the top, there's about a mm or two gap, though the alignment looks spot on at the end.
The picture is a little deceiving, probably because of the lighting and angle. There really isn't a gap between the plastic mirror arm and the rubber gasket. In any case, it's much different than El_Ucca's original pics.

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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 08:11 PM
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WOW.... whether or not that is the cause I'd still be pissed if mine were fitted so poorly. BenzC400's definitely look right, the others are unacceptable. I know its not an S class but it isn't like this car is cheap either... drives me nuts that it seems to be put together so inconsistently.
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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 09:34 PM
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Here's a link of folks in Germany speaking of this exact same wind noise issue on their boards. You can translate the pages online easily. In short, dealers and Mercedes Benz blowing them off too. Blaming mirrors being big. "Normal".

Though they seem to have had some improvement with minute "DOOR adjustment". In the end, they feel the W204 had much less wind noise, but more engine noise, and comment about this same wind noise issue in the W205. How does one adjust a door one MM?

Either way you cut it, for Mercedes dealers or corporate to act when people call and report their issue like they are the ONLY one's with this concern, they're full of it.

http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/windg...32.html?page=1

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Old Mar 13, 2015 | 09:44 PM
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Another post about noise. Hey, at least we're not alone with this problem! One post mentions how his dealer said normal, even though DB meter showed his Puegot (a very inexpensive car without sound insulation to speak of) was quieter than his C. One poster here had triangle photographed above replaced with some improvement. I'm starting to wonder if this is multiple issues.


http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/immer...-t5116801.html
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 01:12 PM
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It will be interesting if El_Ucca reports back whether his tape in this area makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by ManiacGT
It will be interesting if El_Ucca reports back whether his tape in this area makes a difference.
So far it seems to have helped, but i have only driven 20 kilometers after placing the tape, so i can not still say for sure.
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Ucca
So far it seems to have helped, but i have only driven 20 kilometers after placing the tape, so i can not still say for sure.
Thanks for the update. Please keep us posted on longer high speed runs as we really hope we've found a culprit.
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 10:43 PM
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How these two cars leave the same factory with some human, assumably with at least 20/50 vision checking them and singing them off is beyond me.

That's cool you don't have noise and may be onto a potential source. It is most interesting that the rubber gasket doesn't fully meet the mirror especially towards the top, there's about a mm or two gap, though the alignment looks spot on at the end.
Those two cars were built in different factories. The US built car has far better fit on the mirrors than the German built one.
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 02:38 AM
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Hate to burst anyone's bubble but the plastic filler pieces on my C are perfect on one side and near perfect on the other yet I have wind noise on both sides. I am wondering if the wind is caused by incorrect mirror housing alignment (in relation to heading) and the high ambient noise level is due to improper door or window seal installation (which would allow you to hear more wind noise). I did test my car with a DB meter and found that in the center of the car it registered low to mid 60's at highway speed and low 70's when I move it to the top front corner of side windows. My wife's VW Touareg TDI registers 59 for comparison.
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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Those two cars were built in different factories. The US built car has far better fit on the mirrors than the German built one.
Wait a second, I thought all of the cars from Alabama had no quality control!
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 02:32 PM
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Hate to burst anyone's bubble but the plastic filler pieces on my C are perfect on one side and near perfect on the other yet I have wind noise on both sides.
That's really disappointing.
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 10:52 PM
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Wait a second, I thought all of the cars from Alabama had no quality control!
Yup, that's the conclusion that everyone jumped to early on. While the MBTex fiasco was clearly a US production problem, it had nothing to do with the MB factory in Alabama. ALL of the other common issues (rear bumper fit, wind noise, etc) are coming from other factories as well.
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