Originally Posted by cleankutazn

Is it true you can change exhaust note sound depending on if you're in comfort or sport plus mode?

Originally Posted by JGatsby

I have had a handful of BMW's and I am coming out of a 2012 E 350 which was my first Mercedes. I really liked that car but it lacked the sporty feel that some of my previous cars had, which I missed. I have been following the release of the C450 for over a year after I read a great teaser review in one of the auto magazines. When the car was finally released I went down to the dealership and when I first spotted the car I actually thought it was a C63. Loved the aggressive look and quad pipes as well as the front diamond grill. After the test drive I was very impressed with the power, The interior is really stunning, comfortable and very sporty looking. The exhaust actually brought a smile to my face and I actually like the placement of the nav screen(i know I am in the minority here). I sat down with the dealer after the test drive and figured out the lease price, (lease all my vehicles) the payment was way higher then I expected. there was no incentives as expected for a new model, this is what brought me into the BMW dealership. I test drove the 340 with the M sport and track handling package.The car is very fast with almost no noticeable lag when hitting the gas and handled fantastic as expected, very tight. However, To me, the interior feels much more cramped and dated in comparison to the C450. after looking at a couple different model BMW's I was almost settled on the 435 gran coupe. I happened in to another Mercedes dealership prior to pulling the trigger on the 435 and managed a fantastic lease deal on the C450 that I could not pass on, the rest is history.

My reasons for the C450 over the 340 or 435 Grand Coupe for that matter:

-More than adequate power even if not as quick off the line as the BMW
-Much nicer interior
-Nicer styling on exterior with quad pipes
-beautiful exhaust note on start up and crackling popping sound on downshifts
-panoramic sunroof
-To me more exclusive, you don't see one at every stop light.

I am no car expert, never claimed to be, but these are the reasons i personally chose the C450 over the BMW.

Originally Posted by robnyc

Test driving 340, 435GC, and C450 this week

Although the 435GC is 4.7 secs 0-60 and C450 with much more HP/TQ is 4.8 or so why?

Originally Posted by Bourne

Weight and better gearbox may be. But I don't think the 435 does better.
Look here, sorry it is in French
http://www.zeperfs.com/duel5540-5796.htm

Originally Posted by Bourne

Originally Posted by robnyc

Didn't have time to test drive the BMW that day, but since I currently drive I'm familiar with things. After test driving 3 different C450 at different dealerships and days, I drove a 15' GLA 45 AMG w/ Performance Exhaust and had to drive a C450 immediately because I couldn't believe it. I chose the GLA 45 AMG
Although the C450 has a nice interior, for tall ppl the GLA (in my case) fits the profile.

Test-drove a 340 M-Sport today and tomorrow test-driving a 340 M-Sport w/ M Adaptive Suspension.. lets see how it handles..

Originally Posted by JGatsby

the exhaust note certainly changes in the different modes. One of the nicest tips I picked up on this site is starting the car in sport + mode. If you hit the start button without your foot on the brake 2x, you can then adjust the car mode up to sport+, then you can put your foot on the brake and start the car in that mode. It is a very noticeable difference. This is the method I used to start the car in the video I posted above. I have heard that if you drive the car in sport + for some time and then shut the car off, when you restart , the car will then automatically start in sport + for up to 3 hours. I have to say, I do not get the same sound from the exhaust after restarting this way as I do with the method I mentioned above. Manually putting the car in sport plus then starting gives off a much more aggressive note.

Originally Posted by robnyc

Test driving 340, 435GC, and C450 this week

Although the 435GC is 4.7 secs 0-60 and C450 with much more HP/TQ is 4.8 or so why?

Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg

The C450 actual tested speed is actually closer to 4.5 0-60 i think. It definitely has a leg up on the 435GC but performance wise it doesnt quite edge out the 340i. The only gripe about the c450 is the fact that it has a lag if you try to punch it after coming down on speed such as if you were to try to switch lanes when someone in front of you was stopped or trying to park, the C450 sometimes chokes and has a terrible lag in response to the sudden command to accelerate given that it is in the process of slowing down. It was quite dangerous actually as cars are approaching quite fast in the incoming lane

Originally Posted by cleankutazn

Was the GLA's ride harsher than the C450?

Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg

The C450 actual tested speed is actually closer to 4.5 0-60 i think. It definitely has a leg up on the 435GC but performance wise it doesnt quite edge out the 340i. The only gripe about the c450 is the fact that it has a lag if you try to punch it after coming down on speed such as if you were to try to switch lanes when someone in front of you was stopped or trying to park, the C450 sometimes chokes and has a terrible lag in response to the sudden command to accelerate given that it is in the process of slowing down. It was quite dangerous actually as cars are approaching quite fast in the incoming lane

Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg

Yeah its really scary. I think there should be a TSB on this issue. Its really a matter of safety

Originally Posted by MASSC300

Its either a 2017 C450 or the BMW 340i xDrive as it stands now, and as of lately I'm leaning towards the BMW (better price, better aftermarket parts selection, slightly better performance).

Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg

The C450 actual tested speed is actually closer to 4.5 0-60 i think. It definitely has a leg up on the 435GC but performance wise it doesnt quite edge out the 340i. The only gripe about the c450 is the fact that it has a lag if you try to punch it after coming down on speed such as if you were to try to switch lanes when someone in front of you was stopped or trying to park, the C450 sometimes chokes and has a terrible lag in response to the sudden command to accelerate given that it is in the process of slowing down. It was quite dangerous actually as cars are approaching quite fast in the incoming lane

Originally Posted by cleankutazn

Just had that experience today. It felt like the accelerator wasn't responding for around 2 seconds.

Originally Posted by david.kazman

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