tmoneyC450amg

Tobia Moers doesnt consider the C43 to be a TRUE AMG. He was very reluctant in considering it as a TRUE AMG as you can see in his uneasiness of answering the question of which during an interview:

Maritime

His subjective opinion means nothing. If Mercedes says it is, it is.

Mr. J

It's funny that people get all worked up over this. It's not like it's even a new model. The 300/450/C63 are basically just trim levels of the W205. If the entire W205 was up for a refresh (oh wait, it just had one) then I would wait for the refresh. Since that's not happening for a while we went ahead and ordered the car.

Had we had our hearts set on a MB coupe, then we would have waited since the C-class coupes will be getting a refresh for MY2017.

tmoneyC450amg

I ended up getting the C450 because of 1.) W205 is still in its first 2 years of its 5-7year model cycle, I would be shocked if MB decides to introduce a W206 in less than 5years. 2.) the V6TT is a new addition to the MB performance line and will become a legendary engine that will be the talk of the industry for years to come i.e. the N54 in the 335 or the 2JZGTE in toyota.

tmoneyC450amg

Tobias Moers = AMG

Maritime

Mercedes owns AMG. He is a mere employee.

MB = $$$$$$$$.

Oh, almost forgot, since 2005 he is just another clown on the payroll. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-AMG

tmoneyC450amg

Even though I own a C450, I don't consider it to be a true AMG. It's not one man one engine; C450 to a real AMG is like an Audi S to a RS. It's just not a real AMG, hands down. I'm not trying to pose, I don't own a real AMG. For all I know, I bought an AMG-Sport, a car with AMG suspension and AMG-tuned exhaust but not an AMG engine

Maritime

What you believe, want or opine is immaterial to MB. It merely wants profit, as it should.

Xtrema

BMW did it to M.

Audi did it to S.

About time Merc do it to AMG.

kowyzg0moo

Thank you everyone for the comments so far. I went ahead and ordered a custom built C450 for July Delivery, with the option to not take the car if the C43 is drastically different though. We'll see in the announcements!

Maritime

Now, I'll speculate: the dealer sees little risk.

tivoboy

I posted this over in the general AMG 450 thread, but seems more appropriate here..

looks like we might get some more detailed insight in a week or so..

looks like we might get some more detailed insight into exactly what is going to be in the C43 versions soon..

geneva premier of the C43 coupe first week of march.. these guys are saying there might be a chance the BT6 gets 401ps from 367ps.. I doubt the sedan will get that upgrade for the 2017 model

http://blog.mercedes-benz-passion.co...-4matic-coupe/

LOGOSDJ

Probably the best decision you could have made.

tmoneyC450amg

That's quite a power bump. Maybe I will get my C450 tuned if they choose to upgrade the engine so that I may keep up with the fellow C43 coupes on the road

kowyzg0moo

Link doesn't work. Tried to find it, but couldn't get that specific article? Thanks so much.

kowyzg0moo

Thanks. I figured, if I can - swoop in, get the exact car I want. There are delays so it won't be available for a while. And if The C43 is really that much better, I didn't even put a deposit

Cheers mate.

inhartwetrust

http://blog.mercedes-benz-passion.co...-4matic-coupe/

LOGOSDJ

Yup, this way you're covered either way. Best of luck with the decision.

tivoboy

I updated it above

http://blog.mercedes-benz-passion.co...-4matic-coupe/

kowyzg0moo

Thank you. Yup - seems like March 1st is the big day. If the announcements are literally just badge change (my dealer rep seems to think so) then great. But if it's more, well, got the option to back out right?

PrestonXavier

Has anyone who was waiting for the C43 to be released decide to purchase the C450 instead? If so, why?

Igotsoul4u

I went back a little further and grabbed a C400 with 11k miles. Here's my reasons.
1. I saved about $17,000.
2. I don't like the little exhaust pops. Sorry, but they sound like wet farts to me.
3. It's the same engine and seems to be the same 0-60 time. Basically anything under 5 seconds is fast enough for me.

Cons:
I do like the styling details such as the grill and red stitching.
9 speed is probably much smoother.

Mike5215

Nice! I agree fully on the relative merits of the 400 vs the 450/43. Sometimes you want the power and smoothness without the ruckus. MB understood this philosophy in the S600, which is a very understated, almost plain sedan with a twin turbo V12. Not quite the beast an S65 is, but close.

I'm pretty sure when the lease on my C300 is up I'll be hunting down a C400 with AirMatic myself. Congrats!

MASSC450

I actually ended up buying a C450 AMG instead of waiting for the C43 because I ended up getting over 16% off sticker on a new well equipped C450.

So basically I bought a C450 for the savings over the nearly identical C43.

removedCFGaccount

As to the first proposition, he never stated nor implied it. The same is true of the second proposition. One might infer this, but it seems speculative at best.