Post your C450 with Aftermarket Wheels
05-05-2016, 06:00 PM
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Looks good, worthwhile investment.
Wheels are the biggest change to the look of a car, and it can also be the most expensive modification, so it is easy to appreciate when someone has spent the money to do the right set up. Everyone knows that a cast wheel from China retails for about $300-400 each depending on brand and finish, and most may or may not know that doing a Forged wheel whether 1pc or multi pc will cost depending on size, brand, and finish minimum $900-1500ea. but hey, people could have bought a Camry instead of starting with a Mercedes and driven the same miles, but I think most will prefer the Mercedes! So enjoy!
Jim
Wheels are the biggest change to the look of a car, and it can also be the most expensive modification, so it is easy to appreciate when someone has spent the money to do the right set up. Everyone knows that a cast wheel from China retails for about $300-400 each depending on brand and finish, and most may or may not know that doing a Forged wheel whether 1pc or multi pc will cost depending on size, brand, and finish minimum $900-1500ea. but hey, people could have bought a Camry instead of starting with a Mercedes and driven the same miles, but I think most will prefer the Mercedes! So enjoy!
Jim
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nadeau (05-06-2016)
05-09-2016, 07:25 PM
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05-09-2016, 07:41 PM
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I'm not so much worried about the front when i fitted them last week the only thing they hit was the caliper but a 3mm spacer will work great. Didn't look like it would have a problem fitting the wheel. The c63 fender is maybe 1/2 a inch wider at most but will see his weekend. Either way them wheels are going on!!
05-10-2016, 12:42 AM
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You do remember that the wheels camber and the fender has plenty of height. It will fit snug trust me. I've seen 9.5 on c63 already klassenid said they can for 19x9 19x10 no problem. I'm inly goin .5 larger if they don't fit I'll wide body. Which I'm already in the work with.
You do remember that the wheels camber and the fender has plenty of height. It will fit snug trust me. I've seen 9.5 on c63 already klassenid said they can for 19x9 19x10 no problem. I'm inly goin .5 larger if they don't fit I'll wide body. Which I'm already in the work with.
05-12-2016, 07:36 PM
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It's a shame people don't report back details on what went wrong, inside rub, outside rub, etc, how close it was to fitting. The best we get is, "it didn't fit so I moved on"
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Patton250 (09-08-2019)
05-12-2016, 07:42 PM
#134
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Fender flares for the front probably looked awkward, and most likely decided it was easier to buy a 63 once comparing the cost for all the modifications plus the wheels. At least this is what I am assuming!
I am working with a supplier in Europe to produce a forged 19x8.0 and 9.0 in the exact specs I have shared here...this is the correct set up that will work with the OE recommended tires. Anyone interested, feel free to PM or email me.
Jim
05-12-2016, 07:48 PM
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Agreed, I guess I would just like some confirmation/affirmation that we are correct. Who know, maybe there is just enough space for an 8.5" with just the right spacer. I'll be happy with an 8 in the front and a 9 or 9.5 on the rear. If you're in Garden Grove I'm basically in Irvine if you need a test mule. What style wheel will you be offering?
05-12-2016, 08:03 PM
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Agreed, I guess I would just like some confirmation/affirmation that we are correct. Who know, maybe there is just enough space for an 8.5" with just the right spacer. I'll be happy with an 8 in the front and a 9 or 9.5 on the rear. If you're in Garden Grove I'm basically in Irvine if you need a test mule. What style wheel will you be offering?
As far as design goes, it is up to whatever you want...the application is a forged construction so there are plenty of design options.
Jim
05-12-2016, 08:15 PM
#137
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I assumed it was the Carlsson wheels that they offer for the W205?
I was thinking about 245/275 on 8/9.5 which gives you well matched diameter front to rear but slightly larger than OE. I think around 3%. I was hoping it would fill a litter better without dropping it. I think the speedo is off about 1% in the opposite direction anyway.
Do you think a 245 on an 8" with a 32 offset will clear the fender?
I was thinking about 245/275 on 8/9.5 which gives you well matched diameter front to rear but slightly larger than OE. I think around 3%. I was hoping it would fill a litter better without dropping it. I think the speedo is off about 1% in the opposite direction anyway.
Do you think a 245 on an 8" with a 32 offset will clear the fender?
05-12-2016, 08:21 PM
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245 will pinch on a 8.0.
Not sure where all the hype is about going bigger...the offset is going to push the wheels out to the outer edge of the fenders and it is going to reduce the gap considerably.
Since the 450 is a 4matic, I honestly would suggest to not get too creative with tires.
If the car was a 300 2wd like I have going to a 245/275 combo on a 8.5/9.5 is no problem, but with the 450 the car is really a unicorn and you cannot and should not experiment. That seems to have been done a few times already from some members and the outcome is always the same.
Sorry to bare such bad news, but it is what it is.
Jim
Not sure where all the hype is about going bigger...the offset is going to push the wheels out to the outer edge of the fenders and it is going to reduce the gap considerably.
Since the 450 is a 4matic, I honestly would suggest to not get too creative with tires.
If the car was a 300 2wd like I have going to a 245/275 combo on a 8.5/9.5 is no problem, but with the 450 the car is really a unicorn and you cannot and should not experiment. That seems to have been done a few times already from some members and the outcome is always the same.
Sorry to bare such bad news, but it is what it is.
Jim
05-12-2016, 08:45 PM
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If the OE 225 on a 7.5" inch OEM wheel is the "reference standard" then a 237.7 on an 8" would be the equivalent. So sure, a 235 would be closest, but a 245 is only 7.3mm wider than that. I didn't think that would be considered an extreme change. OEM looks a little stretched in my opinion. A 275 on a 9.5 is actually about 5mm undersized in equivalency from a 255 on an 8.5".
the 4matic issue... the wheels just want to spin at the same speed front to back, how much ground they travel per revolution isn't a factor with the differentials. Yes, I suppose it does change the final gearing slightly and you could theoretically lose acceleration, but I don't think 3% is really going to be a factor there.
The Hype about going bigger and wider wheels? Really? Since the dawn of cars, no? Not ranting, just speaking my mind.
the 4matic issue... the wheels just want to spin at the same speed front to back, how much ground they travel per revolution isn't a factor with the differentials. Yes, I suppose it does change the final gearing slightly and you could theoretically lose acceleration, but I don't think 3% is really going to be a factor there.
The Hype about going bigger and wider wheels? Really? Since the dawn of cars, no? Not ranting, just speaking my mind.
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uptownman (06-20-2016)
05-12-2016, 08:59 PM
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Good on you for trying.
Clearly that doesn't fit though. Way too much stretch and the wheel comes out way too far past the fender.
Can you post up the specs anyways so people have a reference?
Clearly that doesn't fit though. Way too much stretch and the wheel comes out way too far past the fender.
Can you post up the specs anyways so people have a reference?
05-12-2016, 09:03 PM
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Also, I have test fitted a 19x8 et 38 wheel and it is about perfect. Any higher et and it would hit on the inside. There may be 3mm to spare on the outside to be flush. Due to the spoke design though, there is about 1mm of clearance from the caliber to the spoke. I think if a grain of sand got caught it would ruin the caliper.
05-12-2016, 09:07 PM
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Also, I have test fitted a 19x8 et 38 wheel and it is about perfect. Any higher et and it would hit on the inside. There may be 3mm to spare on the outside to be flush. Due to the spoke design though, there is about 1mm of clearance from the caliber to the spoke. I think if a grain of sand got caught it would ruin the caliper.
Nope. I'm going for an aggressive look. Appreciate your input. But I'm happy. It's getting lowered on the weekend. You'll see the end result 😉
05-12-2016, 10:22 PM
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05-12-2016, 11:03 PM
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If the OE 225 on a 7.5" inch OEM wheel is the "reference standard" then a 237.7 on an 8" would be the equivalent. So sure, a 235 would be closest, but a 245 is only 7.3mm wider than that. I didn't think that would be considered an extreme change. OEM looks a little stretched in my opinion. A 275 on a 9.5 is actually about 5mm undersized in equivalency from a 255 on an 8.5".
the 4matic issue... the wheels just want to spin at the same speed front to back, how much ground they travel per revolution isn't a factor with the differentials. Yes, I suppose it does change the final gearing slightly and you could theoretically lose acceleration, but I don't think 3% is really going to be a factor there.
The Hype about going bigger and wider wheels? Really? Since the dawn of cars, no? Not ranting, just speaking my mind.
the 4matic issue... the wheels just want to spin at the same speed front to back, how much ground they travel per revolution isn't a factor with the differentials. Yes, I suppose it does change the final gearing slightly and you could theoretically lose acceleration, but I don't think 3% is really going to be a factor there.
The Hype about going bigger and wider wheels? Really? Since the dawn of cars, no? Not ranting, just speaking my mind.
I have seen so far a lot of fellow competitors here on this site say, oh yeah it fits...done a bunch all over the US and the truth is they haven't, and then there are a few individuals that have also taken their own genius ideas and spent a good amount of their money to only find out that what they thought was going to be a slam dunk was a failure. So I somewhat have to really consider that the Engineers at AMG have done some extensive testing and worked close with the tire manufactures like Conti, Pirelli, and Michelin and they have all set up the C class with the optimal tire combination and matched the OD for the 4 matic function, so I tend to rely more on these specs so I don't shoot my mouth off and say oh yeah that will work no problem, and then when you are standing in the service drive at the dealer and they say you will not be covered under warranty for your car having transmission issues because you have the incorrect tire combination on your car. I don't want to be the guy that you think of saying that it would work.
I would just prefer to utilize the factory spec tires just to be on the safe side, and not give anyone here false information. That whole 4 matic thing is sensitive in my opinion, if it was a 2wd application, then play all you want.
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05-13-2016, 09:18 AM
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