IstvanC

Hi guys,

I ordered a set of wheels for my car over a month ago, first it was delayed for 1 month, when they finally arrived, they've sent me completely wrong wheels, wrong design, wrong size etc.

Finally today I got the right wheels, but the wrong offset for the rear wheels.
I ordered 19x8,5" ET45 for the front and 19x9,5" ET45 for the rear.

But I got ET40 at the rear, and now I'm truly pissed, but if it would fit, I don't have the time or energy to wait for 2 new ones and send these 2 back...

So what do you think, will 19x9,5" ET40 with 265/35-19 fit in the rear?
And another problem I have, is I can't seem to find any sort of lowering suspensions or even coilovers for my car since its a diesel and 4Matic.

Sport-suspension my ***, the car i higher then a normal VW Golf with AMG-package and sport suspension

Mike5215

40mm for the rears is what I would have ordered anyway. Puts the wheel 5mm closer to the fender lip and will look more aggressive. Good to go. No idea how to drop a 4Matic if coilovers aren't an option.

IstvanC

Yeah, but since original is ET56,5 and now the new wheels are also 1" wider, I'm a bit scared that it will stick out..

vic viper

I use ET55 on 10" width, tried them on with a 5mm spacer a few days ago and I didnt like the look, they protruded too much.

Wrong offsets on a car that isnt lowered can look truly horrible.

Mike5215

Measure the space you have now on stock wheels between the inner fender lip and the outside edge of the wheel. You need at least 16mm, and a little margin for insurance would be good too.

IstvanC

Yeah I know I'm scared this will look ****... Do you think it will stick outside the rear fender?
Vic, do you know if the springs are the same size on the RWD and 4matics?

I esp need to lower it now with the new wheels....

Mike5215

Here at least the aesthetic is to get the offset low enough so the wheel sits as flush as possible with the fender lip as possible without rubbing. You need to know how much room you have to work with by measuring.

IstvanC

Its the same here Mike, but first of all when I ordered my wheels, I thought for sure there was lowering springs available for my car. That way when you lower the car, you get some negative camber and the upside of the wheel points inwards to the car. I had a S205 220D RWD before this with AMG-package and H&R lowering springs, it look great but the OEM 19" wheels had a big gap.

Today with the 4matic version, this car is higher original than the RWD, and that means that the wheels have like 0 camber. And just buy looking at the oem 18" wheels today which is used as my winter setup, I can't see how 16mm lower ET and 1" wider rim will fit.

I thought by lowering, and ET45 it would fit flush... Now I'm not sure at all. Pretty disappointed, nobody that I can find has lowering springs or coilovers for the car!

IstvanC

Heres a quick snap so you can see my original 8,5" rear wheels with ET56..
As the car sits so high, there isn't that much room left to the lip. Well theres TOO much room left upwards, but not to the sides..

Mike5215

Yeah, if you're concerned it might rub maybe bite the bullet and get the 45mm wheels you ordered.

So you're 16mm closer on 40mm, and an inch wider which translates to a half inch on the front face of the wheel. You'd need 30mm total clearance right?

IstvanC

But I'm just so fed up with this bull**** company.. They told me 4 days and I'll have the wheels. Now its 1 month since I ordered the wheels.

30mm is much, and its really hard to see now at OEM hight, and zero camber. they will probably stick out pretty much at this hight..

alexasa

iTrader: (1)

What brand wheels did you order?

Mike5215

30mm is an inch. I think it'll look good but I'd want to measure that gap to be sure it'll clear over bumps. You'll still get negative camber when the suspension is compressed, which as you said will buy you extra clearance up top.

vic viper

I did some research and it seems like there is no physical difference in springs with a 4matic vehicle, however a 4matic will always require a stiffer spring to compensate for the increased front axle weight, the struts however are different.

I lowered a S212 4matic the other day, the seller kept telling me the 2WD springs I ordered wouldnt fit, but they sure did and the owner is more than happy

Just remember I still havnt confirmed 100% that the 2WD spring will fit a 4WD W205 until I have fitted one my self.

atl 2 chi

I know your pain. Ordered these and was told they would fit. They stick out to much for me, even with my C450 lowered on H&R sport springs. Not happy at all!

IstvanC

The brand is Stuttgart ST9 Black Polish, bought them from a Swedish site, but they were sent to me from UK.

Thanks Mike, maybe it will work, but I might think it will look pretty silly when the car is this high.. hehe

Vic, thanks! Hmm, If only I knew 100% that some kit would fit, I would order it.. The petrol 4matics, does maybe their springs fit? Is there somehow you could see the sizes? Gah, still pretty pissed that nobody has done a lowering spring for this car yet..

And there went my idea of fitting coilovers for a RWD if the struts aren't the same.

Mike5215

Yikes! What's the width and offset on those?

IstvanC

What size are these?

IstvanC

Found the rims on another Merc, but I don't know the size of those wheels. But thats how they look at least..

Mike5215

Those look really good! Mount 'em up!

atl 2 chi

That is the front in the picture. 19x.8.5 ET45 (Carlsson 1/10). That is with a 20mm spacer. That was the only way they would clear the control arm, but with them sticking out that much, no can do.

Offset of the front factory front is +35.

Mike5215

Yeah 20mm is a lot of spacer on a front wheel. I've never run a spacer up front that didn't cause at least some vibration issues. You're better off without spacers and finding a wheel closer to the OEM offset anyway. I haven't sized wheels on my C but I think 45mm would work right?

atl 2 chi

I concur with your opinion. I plan to stay away from the spacers. I had the bolt on H&R one's at the time of the test fit.

lbowroom

Actually, 25.4mm=1 inch

Mike5215

30 mm = 1 3/16". I rounded.