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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 05:46 PM
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New E class - C Class

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E class is finally there. Many people say it looks too much like a C class. I really was looking out for it. The exterior is amazing and it's a large car in person. However after sitting in it I was less stunned than I thought I would be. Maybe because the C class already has this amazing design and tech. So it's less of an upgrade if you go from C to E than for example from 5 series to new E Class.

Afterwards when I came back to my C class and sat behind the steering wheel I noticed a whole different feeling. The interior of the E class is a bit angular, where as the C class has more curves. I feel more "one with the car" in the C class.

I do like the integrated display and the fact that there is more space and tech in the E (64 different colors of ambient lighting). I don't like the touchpads on the steering wheel. Like the buttons in the C class better

Probably in 2018 the C class facelift will be released. With probably a integrated display!

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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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Nice! I'd probably be in an E but I'm not crazy about the U.S. Spec getting the T4 that's in the C and I didn't want to wait for the 6. Maybe when the C comes off lease in 2019. Good looking car though.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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Nice! I'd probably be in an E but I'm not crazy about the U.S. Spec getting the T4 that's in the C and I didn't want to wait for the 6. Maybe when the C comes off lease in 2019. Good looking car though.
Yeah I think the engine in the E400 suits the E class best. Nice 6 cilinder. When the C class came out I didnt like it that much and after a few months when I saw the amg package and more option ones I started liking it way more. I think its a matter of time for me to like the E class more than the C.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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man, that digital panel looks awesome.

that's exactly the kind of uniqueness i'd look for on a luxury car. don't get me wrong the w205 is miles above the rest. now if only the C was available with that dashboard panel i'd **** myself.
but alas, we ain't even getting apple carplay, who am I kidding?
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 06:55 PM
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Nice! I'd probably be in an E but I'm not crazy about the U.S. Spec getting the T4 that's in the C and I didn't want to wait for the 6. Maybe when the C comes off lease in 2019. Good looking car though.

Only offering the 4 cylinder at launch is ridiculous.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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I just don't see anything to get excited about with that dash layout vs the current C class.

I much prefer real gauges vs electronic pictures of gauges. IMHO of course.
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Old Apr 12, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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Yeah the E leans more toward luxury than sport. I like the dash on the E but I'm glad the C got a real cockpit with real gauges.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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Yeah the E leans more toward luxury than sport. I like the dash on the E but I'm glad the C got a real cockpit with real gauges.
Im just glad we dont have the 3-series gauges...they look like the gauges on a video game racing wheel
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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the non digital dash looks terrible...
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 11:05 AM
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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Yeah that's a deal killer. The question is what sort of premium do they charge for the dash that doesn't look like it was made by Mattel, and how much other stuff do you end up paying for in order to get it. I'm guessing the E with the all glass dash and premium trim will be pushing $70k.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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Standard dash = barf!
I doubt anyone will buy that in NA.

But in Germany, this is fine for the Commerical fleet like Taxi and such.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 12:33 PM
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Yeah that's a deal killer. The question is what sort of premium do they charge for the dash that doesn't look like it was made by Mattel, and how much other stuff do you end up paying for in order to get it. I'm guessing the E with the all glass dash and premium trim will be pushing $70k.
Just as the C class moved up in the price range so will the E so around $70k should be a lightly optioned E. Analog gauges look like crap in the E.

I sat in the new E at the NYIAS and it really was a quality car, everything felt solid, I loved the new Comand system as well as the different themes (Sport/Progressive) and actually liked the touchpads on the steering wheel once I figured out how to best use them.

In pictures I thought the headlight graphics look unresolved but in real life it actually looks like the next evolution of the current E headlamp system.

I also sat in the new C coupe which had an a$$ that sat higher than a 80s model and made it impossible to see out the back of. Seriously there was maybe 4 inches of window between the rear deck and the top of the rear windscreen when looking in the rear view mirror.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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Normally I love the coupe version of a car, but there's just zero emotion from the B pillar back in a C Coupe. Same for the 222 Coupe. Prefer the sedans.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DapperStyle
Just as the C class moved up in the price range so will the E so around $70k should be a lightly optioned E. Analog gauges look like crap in the E.

I sat in the new E at the NYIAS and it really was a quality car, everything felt solid, I loved the new Comand system as well as the different themes (Sport/Progressive) and actually liked the touchpads on the steering wheel once I figured out how to best use them.

In pictures I thought the headlight graphics look unresolved but in real life it actually looks like the next evolution of the current E headlamp system.

I also sat in the new C coupe which had an a$$ that sat higher than a 80s model and made it impossible to see out the back of. Seriously there was maybe 4 inches of window between the rear deck and the top of the rear windscreen when looking in the rear view mirror.
The starting price for the new E here in the Netherlands is 50k euro's. Thats around 56.4k USD. The amg package car you see in the video without the 12 inch screen is 68k euro as it stands there. Around 76 something USD.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 06:25 PM
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Standard dash = barf!

Yeah, WOW! I can't believe how Craptacular that looks!

Even the digital dash looks like something which should have appeared back in the 90's. With so much screen tech around these days that has zero bezel or curved OLED displays, I'm amazed they are still going to use these super ugly screens for their most advanced car.

I mean, no question, what is running on the screens is slick as - but design wise this is without a doubt the worst digital dash in the market.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DutchTim1
The starting price for the new E here in the Netherlands is 50k euro's. Thats around 56.4k USD. The amg package car you see in the video without the 12 inch screen is 68k euro as it stands there. Around 76 something USD.
$76k without the glass dash? Yikes. And the AMG 20's look cool but damn there's no sidewalls on those run flats. It's gotta ride like a go kart on those.

Hey, I used to have that exact same sig pic!

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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:27 AM
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Both the full integrated display, and the regular display in the new E Class looks absolutely hideous.

I like the dash on my C300 WAY better.
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 08:51 AM
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Agreed with most of you. Standard dash is gross. Upgraded dash is cool technology, but I prefer actual physical gauges. I don't want to be in a video game!
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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The digital dash is ok...Audi did a cool one in the new A4, but they integrated it into a conventional binnacle. Even Tesla has a more integrated main cluster, as does Jaguar.

MB's decision to celebrate the naked rectangle of its screens rather than design them into the dash was a bold move and freed up their designers to do other cool stuff with the dash...look how cool the C dash is running flat from the gauge binnacle to the passenger side...but I'm not loving it in the E.

Worse, if you go for the analog cluster in the E it now looks like it's a half inch thick and glued onto a massive piece of cheap black plastic. No good option.
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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Oh wow.. that standard dash board is horrid.

I'm looking at an E43 to replace my C400 if I stay with Mercedes.. There are other cars I'm considering at this point though, my C400 hasn't been all roses, it has been in the shop too many times for things that shouldn't even register as an issue
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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$76k without the glass dash? Yikes. And the AMG 20's look cool but damn there's no sidewalls on those run flats. It's gotta ride like a go kart on those.

Hey, I used to have that exact same sig pic!
Yes without the glass dash. But it will probabely cost less in the USA.
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 02:24 PM
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Hey, I used to have that exact same sig pic!
What sig pic? :o I dont't have a sig pic
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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What sig pic? :o I dont't have a sig pic
Exactly, but you have the hypertext for one showing in your sig.
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:27 PM
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I think the screen in our current cars looks hideous. I don't think it matches the rest of the interior. Those big borders kill it. for $50k+ it should have been a OLED at least, or borderless with a hint of aluminum on the borders.

with that said, the cluster on the E class at least stays competitive with the rest (audi)
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