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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Anyone familiar with Lemon Law? Buyback by Mercedes Corporate but have questions...

Hi guys,

So for a while, my 2015 W205 has had issues. It's a lovely car overall, but I've just had headache on headache with the car in service for over 120 days (not continuous) ranging from rattling noises to rear axle replacement to battery malfunctions, Airmatic failure, etc. Mercedes corporate has offered to buy back the vehicle, but I was wondering: what's next? Has anyone had experience dealing with the buy back process? Things to note, worry about, consider before giving the car back to them?

Would appreciate any feedback/advice. Thank you all.

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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 07:38 PM
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Are they offering to refund the purchase price less mileage or a replacement new car of equal value?
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 07:53 PM
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Are they offering to refund the purchase price less mileage or a replacement new car of equal value?
Both are the options as this point. The car's a lease though, so based off CA lemon law math, I'm looking to actually make some money over the remaining amount owed/due on the lease payoff.
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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Do you want another Benz? I think you'll generally do better if you're okay taking a replacement car from the manufacturer. I'll bet you could scoop up a close out C450 for even money.
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 08:19 PM
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Do you want another Benz? I think you'll generally do better if you're okay taking a replacement car from the manufacturer. I'll bet you could scoop up a close out C450 for even money.
I am totally ok with getting another Benz. I actually have a C63 AMG Coupe on order for Euro Delivery, but that's not arriving until late November/January 2017 for delivery to the States. So thats part of the dilemma...
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kowyzg0moo
I am totally ok with getting another Benz. I actually have a C63 AMG Coupe on order for Euro Delivery, but that's not arriving until late November/January 2017 for delivery to the States. So thats part of the dilemma...
Then maybe a buyback works better in this situation. - im not sure as I haven't gone through the process yet. I was told they would give offers within 60 days of new replacement car.

I hope everthing works out for you man!
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 02:31 PM
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Contact a firm in Glendale called Norman Taylor and Associates; I went through them on a Lemon Law case back in 2011 on a GMC Acadia that we had for 3 years when we finally were recommended to contact them on the instruction of the Service Manager at the GM dealer...we presented everything to them and we got back every dime we had into the car.
They specialize in Lemon Law cases, it was the easiest thing ever, wish I would have done it sooner instead of doing all the back and forth with GM.
Hope this helps!
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 02:46 PM
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^This, plus under the lemon law, MB owes your attorney's fee. It's a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by kowyzg0moo
Hi guys,

So for a while, my 2015 C400 has had issues. It's a lovely car overall, but I've just had headache on headache with the car in service for over 120 days (not continuous) ranging from rattling noises to rear axle replacement to battery malfunctions, Airmatic failure, etc. Mercedes corporate has offered to buy back the vehicle, but I was wondering: what's next? Has anyone had experience dealing with the buy back process? Things to note, worry about, consider before giving the car back to them?

Would appreciate any feedback/advice. Thank you all.
I had TWO 2014 e550's bought back by Benz, it's fair and honest and a quick process once it occurs

Got every penny paid ... Back in my wallet. Make it clear that Benz hasn't lived up to its promise of a perfect new car since you bought it so you want ALL YOUR MONEY BACK - not a prorated amount

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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OSMS_Carlsson
Contact a firm in Glendale called Norman Taylor and Associates; I went through them on a Lemon Law case back in 2011 on a GMC Acadia that we had for 3 years when we finally were recommended to contact them on the instruction of the Service Manager at the GM dealer...we presented everything to them and we got back every dime we had into the car.
They specialize in Lemon Law cases, it was the easiest thing ever, wish I would have done it sooner instead of doing all the back and forth with GM.
Hope this helps!
Is this necessary if they've already approved the buy back though? They've been very willing to help so far
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I had TWO 2014 e550's bought back by Benz, it's fair and honest and a quick process once it occurs

Got every penny paid ... Back in my wallet. Make it clear that Benz hasn't lived up to its promise of a perfect new car since you bought it so you want ALL YOUR MONEY BACK - not a prorated amount

Google: "mbworld peterubers harsh"
And "mbworld peterubers lovely"
Wow a lot of bad luck? Damn. Was it difficult to deal with?
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 05:07 PM
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^This, plus under the lemon law, MB owes your attorney's fee. It's a no brainer.
Thanks for all the heads up. Hopefully it goes smoothly
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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Wow a lot of bad luck? Damn. Was it difficult to deal with?
Not difficult, just need lots of patience

I did NOT use a lawyer and it's not required or advised unless you're not getting the final deal you want from Benz. I queried a lemon lawyer and he told me "you don't need me! They are already buying it back and will give you what you want"

It's cheaper and easier for Benz not to go through lemon proceedings
1. They keep you happy and likely customer again
2. They can sell the car at auction without lemon on its title
3. They can sell an extended warranty on a car WITHOUT lemon on its title
4. They minimize bad press
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kowyzg0moo
Is this necessary if they've already approved the buy back though? They've been very willing to help so far
It is up to you to go this route...I only provided this info based on the thread.
If you feel satisfied that you are being treated fairly and they are giving you everything back that you want, then you probably don't need to involve an attorney. We went round and round with GM direct and all they did was call us and tell us that somebody else would be calling and getting back to us...this went on for 3 months, they basically just hope you get sick of dealing with it and you sell the car or trade it in and make it someone else's problem.
I was then instructed to go see the Service manager at the dealer we bought the car from and upon meeting him he just handed me the phone number and contact info for the Lawyer. I said are you serious, he said yep, just call them and they will take care of everything. A month later I dropped the car back at the dealer and picked up a check.

If MB is working with you to resolve your issues and keep your business, then you most likely don't need to involve a Lawyer, but in the case you do, the Norman Taylor people were easy to work with and handled everything.

Jim
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You really shouldn't be discussing this in a public forum, but hey that's just my opinion.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Not difficult, just need lots of patience

I did NOT use a lawyer and it's not required or advised unless you're not getting the final deal you want from Benz. I queried a lemon lawyer and he told me "you don't need me! They are already buying it back and will give you what you want"

It's cheaper and easier for Benz not to go through lemon proceedings
1. They keep you happy and likely customer again
2. They can sell the car at auction without lemon on its title
3. They can sell an extended warranty on a car WITHOUT lemon on its title
4. They minimize bad press
Much appreciated. Thank you for the heads up.
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OSMS_Carlsson
It is up to you to go this route...I only provided this info based on the thread.
If you feel satisfied that you are being treated fairly and they are giving you everything back that you want, then you probably don't need to involve an attorney. We went round and round with GM direct and all they did was call us and tell us that somebody else would be calling and getting back to us...this went on for 3 months, they basically just hope you get sick of dealing with it and you sell the car or trade it in and make it someone else's problem.
I was then instructed to go see the Service manager at the dealer we bought the car from and upon meeting him he just handed me the phone number and contact info for the Lawyer. I said are you serious, he said yep, just call them and they will take care of everything. A month later I dropped the car back at the dealer and picked up a check.

If MB is working with you to resolve your issues and keep your business, then you most likely don't need to involve a Lawyer, but in the case you do, the Norman Taylor people were easy to work with and handled everything.

Jim
Much appreciated Jim. Will see what's going to happen next. Hopefully MB knows a little better than GM does haha
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Originally Posted by kowyzg0moo
Much appreciated Jim. Will see what's going to happen next. Hopefully MB knows a little better than GM does haha
I am most sure that they do, MB is far more familiar with Customer service than GM. The recommendation for me to go the route I did was directly suggested by someone at the Management level in a large dealership. In many cases we become simply a number, and again they rely on the notion that most people will just pass the problem to someone else, where Mercedes-Benz is far more more concerned about their brand vs GM, so I think you will find a greater satisfaction with a company like Mercedes. Like someone mentioned above, they would prefer to avoid paying lawyers fees, and have a car with a Lemon Title...it is better for the brand to spend a little money to make you happy. If they don't then that is on them.

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Originally Posted by Mike5215
Are they offering to refund the purchase price less mileage or a replacement new car of equal value?
Hi Mike, yesterday MB agreed to buyback my vehicle. I haven't heard the offer yet, but my dealer told me it's going to be full payment (lease down + monthly payment) minus usage fee.

Do you know about how much they are going to charge for usage over 15000 miles / 15 months?

The dealer also told me the new C43 order is going to be a separate transaction. So I have to go through the negotiation and basically I would expect a very high lease payment on the vehicle. No help from MBUSA.
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I had TWO 2014 e550's bought back by Benz, it's fair and honest and a quick process once it occurs

Got every penny paid ... Back in my wallet. Make it clear that Benz hasn't lived up to its promise of a perfect new car since you bought it so you want ALL YOUR MONEY BACK - not a prorated amount

Google: "mbworld peterubers harsh"
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How did you ask for full money refund? They said they were going to offer payment minus usage fee. No offers have been provided at this point.
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Originally Posted by arnold0523
Hi Mike, yesterday MB agreed to buyback my vehicle. I haven't heard the offer yet, but my dealer told me it's going to be full payment (lease down + monthly payment) minus usage fee.

Do you know about how much they are going to charge for usage over 15000 miles / 15 months?

The dealer also told me the new C43 order is going to be a separate transaction. So I have to go through the negotiation and basically I would expect a very high lease payment on the vehicle. No help from MBUSA.
My guess would be .25 a mile like a lease overage. It's negotiable though. My buddy is a lemon law attorney and he typically got the mfr to eat the mileage. Depends on how much money you're talking about. It would be $3750 on 15k miles at .25. To me that's not walk away money. See what figure they come back with.
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Originally Posted by kowyzg0moo
Hi guys,

So for a while, my 2015 W205 has had issues. It's a lovely car overall, but I've just had headache on headache with the car in service for over 120 days (not continuous) ranging from rattling noises to rear axle replacement to battery malfunctions, Airmatic failure, etc. Mercedes corporate has offered to buy back the vehicle, but I was wondering: what's next? Has anyone had experience dealing with the buy back process? Things to note, worry about, consider before giving the car back to them?

Would appreciate any feedback/advice. Thank you all.

I contacted MB corporate regarding all of the noise issues I was having, they made numerous attempts to fix replacing the command center console and putting felt tape under the moldings around the center console, they replaced the weather stripping on all windows, found a loose screw inside the door panel. They offered the dealer $5,000 to get me into another car and of course that wasn't enough; the dealer was useless in fact the service manager actually heard more rattles and noises than I did. Got them to make a lease payment and a tire and wheel policy. Now I'm having issues with the tires, 6500 miles and the fronts are shot. Dealer did a balance at 4600 miles and made no indication that there was any tire wear. Less than 2000 miles later the fronts are all worn on the outside. Waiting to hear back from MB corp but I so want out of this car
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