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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 10:02 AM
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M274 piston failures on this site are reported on C300 (well documented) and also W213 E300: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post8246209

Where are E300 M274 engines assembled?

The GLC300 also uses the M274 engine.

The M264 shares many components with the M274, notably the crankshaft and connecting rods. However, the piston part number is new for M264. Whether it is a modification of the previous M274 design or a clean sheet new piston design, is unknown.
the M264 Uses a forged piston as well as the block is now using the Conical cylinders, tapered from top to bottom. The bore of the cylinder is wider below where the piston skirt would be but the M264 uses a shallow skirt design for less friction and better economy. The other thing noteworthy on these turbo 4cy engines is they all use alot of boost pressure to get the performance needed. Alot of boost = alot of heat.
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Old Dec 14, 2021 | 09:48 PM
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I am bumping this up in case there has been any updates to this question.
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 06:28 PM
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Issues with M264 GLC 2021 still an issue in M264 mechanical failure

Issues with M264 GLC 2021 still an issue in M264 mechanical failure

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I am bumping this up in case there has been any updates to this question.
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 06:57 PM
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Issues with M264 GLC 2021 still an issue in M264 mechanical failure
Sorry to hear about that, what kind of mechanical failure your vehicle is facing though?
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 07:08 PM
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An adjuster is looking at it then I will know exactly. But it’s a making a knocking noise and Mercedes is suggesting a complete engine block replacement. I have the M264 in 2021 GLC 300 4Matic Turbo Coupe 52k. Please provide any thoughts??
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MrsLady
An adjuster is looking at it then I will know exactly. But it’s a making a knocking noise and Mercedes is suggesting a complete engine block replacement. I have the M264 in 2021 GLC 300 4Matic Turbo Coupe 52k. Please provide any thoughts??
It could be a number of things:
- cracked piston
- failed cylinder head
- broken connecting rod
- or others

Please keep us updated and if you can, please post a copy of the service quote/invoice with your personal information removed.
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Old Nov 21, 2022 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chassis
It could be a number of things:
- cracked piston
- failed cylinder head
- broken connecting rod
- or others

Please keep us updated and if you can, please post a copy of the service quote/invoice with your personal information removed.
Hmmm sad to hear the M264 is beginning to show problems as well uncomfortably similar to the M274: (
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Old Nov 22, 2022 | 08:55 AM
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I will definitely keep you posted. Thanks for your feedback

Originally Posted by chassis
It could be a number of things:
- cracked piston
- failed cylinder head
- broken connecting rod
- or others

Please keep us updated and if you can, please post a copy of the service quote/invoice with your personal information removed.
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Old Nov 22, 2022 | 09:08 AM
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M264 Engine failure article min news

i’m adding an article I came across about the M264 having issues and that it has been eliminated after 3 years.

Nowadays, Mercedes-Benz has eliminated
the M264 engine in only three years. The
Mercedes-Benz C-class (parameters | pictures),
as the representative model of the M264 engine,
according to the vehicle quality network data,
the main problems of the C-class are
concentrated on the engine motor failure and
the engine failure light., The engine shakes and
cannot start.

Originally Posted by chassis
It could be a number of things:
- cracked piston
- failed cylinder head
- broken connecting rod
- or others

Please keep us updated and if you can, please post a copy of the service quote/invoice with your personal information removed.
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Old Dec 25, 2022 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MrsLady
I will definitely keep you posted. Thanks for your feedback
Any update?
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Old Jan 7, 2023 | 10:05 PM
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I operate a specialty shop in Kansas City (Royal Autowerks) and just bought a 2016 C300 with 68K on it from a client with the loss of compression on cylinder #1 and will perform the detailed teardown (and rebuild ultimately). My client has registered for this class action lawsuit. I recommend that anyone that has had the same concern, reach out to the CA law firm that is pursuing the class-action suit.

https://www.classaction.org/news/mer...ng-m274-engine

I am a former Ford engineer and MIT mechanical engineering graduate (Masters and Bachelors). I have also been a mechanic for 39 years. I have engaged the law firm and will likely end up being the engineering and mechanical expert on this case.

I encourage you to get registered for the suit if you have suffered a loss. Do this before you dispose of the vehicle.

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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 07:48 AM
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​​​​​​I am not an expert in service bulletins. We have almost 650 w205 cars in the club. All German built we report incidents in group meetings we share issues and solutions to problems. I never heard of anyone talking about pistons cracking.
Almost 650? Wow. Let’s see!
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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 07:59 AM
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I will definitely keep you posted. Thanks for your feedback
update?
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by trygve11
I operate a specialty shop in Kansas City (Royal Autowerks) and just bought a 2016 C300 with 68K on it from a client with the loss of compression on cylinder #1 and will perform the detailed teardown (and rebuild ultimately). My client has registered for this class action lawsuit. I recommend that anyone that has had the same concern, reach out to the CA law firm that is pursuing the class-action suit.

https://www.classaction.org/news/mer...ng-m274-engine

I am a former Ford engineer and MIT mechanical engineering graduate (Masters and Bachelors). I have also been a mechanic for 39 years. I have engaged the law firm and will likely end up being the engineering and mechanical expert on this case.

I encourage you to get registered for the suit if you have suffered a loss. Do this before you dispose of the vehicle.

- Jason
Thanks for posting this class action lawsuit link Jason. I would encourage everyone who has reported this piston problem with their W205 C class in this thread to sign up for this lawsuit. There have been too many reports of this problem for it to be ignored any longer. I'm glad that NHTSA is finally looking into this. Just what the problem is, I'm not sure. It could possibly be a bad batch of pistons produced by a supplier that might be isolated to a certain range of vin numbers or it might be more wide spread. This is pure speculation on my part at this point. I think accountability on this issue is important. Such a catastrophic engine failure at such low mileages should not be happening. Jason, you engineering resume is similar to my engineer father's, bachelors in engineering from MIT and masters in engineering from the University of Miami, more than 40 years of aviation and automotive engineering work experience and was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers.
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