C Class (W205) C 180 BlueTec,C 200 BlueTec,C 220 BlueTec,C 220 BlueTec BlueEfficiency,C 250 BlueTec,C 300 BlueTec Hybridplus,C 180,C 180 BlueEfficiency,C 200,C 250,C 300,C 400 Plug-in Hybrid,C 400

Engine Grounding Points

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Apr 10, 2021 | 02:27 PM
  #1  
MBenzOwner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 63
Likes: 24
C300
Engine Grounding Points

Where are the engine grounding points on the W205 4 cylinder engines? Has anyone had to clean or change these?
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2021 | 02:30 PM
  #2  
ItalianJoe1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,037
Likes: 1,011
From: Miami, FL
2003 CL 600
Are you having an issue?

There are a few harness grounds around the cylinder head and side of the block, the main ground for the engine to body is from one of the engine mount arms.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2021 | 02:35 PM
  #3  
MBenzOwner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 63
Likes: 24
C300
Intermittent issues starting issues mostly when restarting from an ECO stop. I changed the battery, battery sensor, voltage dip limiter, starter relay, and the starter itself is new. I have explored all the other common electrical issues. So I was thinking about grounding points.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2021 | 02:41 PM
  #4  
ItalianJoe1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,037
Likes: 1,011
From: Miami, FL
2003 CL 600
You changed the aux battery as well? What is your voltage dropping to when starting? Any issues when it is not an eco start?

In that case it would only be the large ground strap, you should be able to access it from the top with the vehicle on the ground easily enough on an M274, to check it for corrosion. I've seen a W212 corrode on the body side and we could not see it until we tried to remove and the stud snapped off the body rather than loosen the nut. Required a trip to the body shop to weld in a new ground stud under the gas pedal area. Easy enough to do a resistance check from the engine to the body and see, or voltage drop across the same when starting.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2021 | 02:50 PM
  #5  
MBenzOwner's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 63
Likes: 24
C300
1. Aux battery was replaced about 2 yrs ago. No warnings or codes regarding that. My understanding is that is to power the electronics and doesn't affect starting.
2. I changed this large cable (See pic) that connects the battery to the bolt via the sensor. The bolt otherwise was not corroded.
3. Voltage doesn't drop according to the hidden battery screen.
4. Maybe it occasionally occurs when I first start car but I hit the Keyless GO button one or twice and it starts up.

I have a video of it:

Just wondering if there are other points directly to the M274 engine since the engine mounts may not conduct.




Last edited by MBenzOwner; Apr 10, 2021 at 02:54 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2021 | 03:03 PM
  #6  
ItalianJoe1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,037
Likes: 1,011
From: Miami, FL
2003 CL 600
There is a cable from the engine mount arm on the engine side, to the body of the car, that is your ground path for the starter. That I have seen corroded at the body attachement but only one time. I believe it's on the left side, but I could be mistaken, it has been a while. Can't miss it though, big brown wire running from right on the aluminum arm back to the body of the car.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2021 | 02:20 AM
  #7  
dagger22's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Photoriffic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 333
Likes: 102
2019 CLS450 (C257)
Originally Posted by MBenzOwner
Intermittent issues starting issues mostly when restarting from an ECO stop. I changed the battery, battery sensor, voltage dip limiter, starter relay, and the starter itself is new. I have explored all the other common electrical issues. So I was thinking about grounding points.
Have you checked the relays as well?
I checked online with regards to ECO start/stop and Circuit 15 and 87M was mentioned.

Here's some links to start out and do let us know how it goes:
https://www.glaowners.com/attachment...ide-pdf.13017/
https://www.benzworld.org/threads/so...which.3049318/
https://mercedes-benz-worldzz.blogsp...ine-p2505.html

Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:57 PM.

story-0
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-1
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-3
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-5
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes Teases Updated EQS With Steer-By-Wire and a Yoke

Slideshow: The 2027 update adds a fully digital steering system, revised styling, and potential charging upgrades as the company looks to revive interest in the luxury EV.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-04 10:24:38


VIEW MORE
story-8
8 Mercedes Models With Poor Reliability Records

Slideshow: From problematic air suspensions to early dual-clutch transmission issues, these specific models and years stand out as the least dependable modern Mercedes vehicles.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-26 18:08:10


VIEW MORE
story-9
Magnificent New Mercedes-Maybach S-Class Revealed: 12 Things to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-Maybach has refreshed the S-Class with new lighting signatures, AI-driven software, and even more elaborate rear-seat luxury.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-25 18:01:51


VIEW MORE