Dragan R

Recently had a misfire on the cylinder 3, took it to the dealership and they say it will cost $20K and it needs new engine!!!! Had this car for past 4-5 years and have been enjoying it, just turned 65K miles. The other day on a freeway it started stuttering and check engine light came on. I have been babying it and never went over 5000 rpm.
San Diego MB dealership told me cylinder 3 wall is scratched and if i pay $9000 they will pull it apparat to see what the damage is, or just swap the engine for $19000+.. They suggested if I can prove that I did oil changes on time they "could" give me a discount! Once I did that they told me it was not done in their dealership and I am on my own.... I see online that I am not the only one with this issue, cracked piston ,wrist pin etc...?

Elvisfan0108

$20k for an engine sounds ridiculous. If you can prove oil changes, etc. They don’t have to be from that dealer.

mikec35

If you can't get warranty replacement then I'd look into a LKQ used engine with a warranty.

Keith66

Out of warranty, I would take a serious look at independent shops that specialize in MBs and have that shop troubleshoot it and see where you are. Just my .02

190Efan

I think this is very good advise just to see what their diagnosis shows. Sadly, the original MB warranty has likely expired as they're typically 4 years or 50,000 miles. I would also contact MBUSA as well as NHTSA and report your engine issue. A car with only 65,000 miles on it should not need a new engine. By MB standards, your car isn't even broken in yet. The only way this will ever be addressed is if enough people file complaints in numbers that are to big to be ignored. So sorry for your difficulty.

Andy74

This is frustrating. A car with 65 k miles needs a new engine? This is common for US made W205 piston cracking ect... Mainly 2015 models. So why does the customer has to pay for a manufacturer fault? and they are asking for a proof of oil change! I recommend you escale and talk to MB USA what happened to good will and common sense?

Dragan R

I was able to get statements of my oil-changes with work done and once they got those PDFs they told me you didn't buy car in our dealership or done oil-changes there so they can't do anything for me.
Also spoke with the MBUSA and they told me they would be able to nock off 10% of the new engine ( refurbished with 50K miles on it) so instead 20K it would be $18K....

Andy74

How about independent mechanic did you get a quote?

Dragan R

I am working on it right now, I see refurbished blocks on ebay for $4-7K. Problem is who guarantees that same issue it will not happen again. Because I did not abused my car and after 60K need to replace whole engine.

E55Greasemonkey

205 C-class are junk.

Andy74

Can you tell if the used engine is German or US? German built engines do not have these piston failure issues. I understood from many threads that MB USA recognized this problem for w205 2015 and they issued a service recall or whatever they call it. So why aren't they helping you? They can shove this 10% up their ***.

Dragan R

MBUSA told me today that there is no recalls for my model?! Where did you see that recall because that is my model year (2015 w205)

chassis

@Dragan R Sorry to hear about the situation. What caused the cylinder 3 scratching/scuffing? Did the dealer give you a detailed root cause?

There have been cracked piston reports on this site for the M274 2017 and 2018 model years. It's not only 2015 model year.

The M264, successor to the M274, shares many parts (block, crankshaft, rods) with its predecessor, but not the pistons. It will be interesting to see if these failures happen when the M264 approaches 100k miles.

E55Greasemonkey

Your 4/50 warranty is over. You didn't service your car at the dealership. MB will not be helping you. There is no recall for this problem.

Andy74

make a search on here. So many threads talking about piston failures. I saw it on one of these threads.

E55Greasemonkey

THERE IS NO RECALL FOR PISTON FAILURE.

Dragan R

Hi chassis, they want me to pa $9K just to pull it apart to see if indeed is piston/ wrist pin. What they did was they checked compression and via spark plug hole they looked inside and saw scratched wall... So most-likely it is piston. Mechanic told me with this new injection system sometimes computer adds more gas and it is possible to have secondary explosion that cracks piston.... I do not know if that was a reason or something other... will keep you guys posted. Still looking into other options.

Andy74

I read this. Maybe the writter was wrong.

E55Greasemonkey

A service bulletin IS NOT a recall.

Andy74

He can at least negotiate with them a lower price to fix the car since there were so many occurences of an unanticipated problem. We are trying to help the guy.

Keith66

I hope a second opinion finds your issues repairable without having to replace everything.

190Efan

The MB dealer you went to is not giving you correct information. All MB dealerships work on all MB cars regardless of where they're purchased. Federal law states that ou also don't have to have your oil changes done at an MB dealership to get help. I suggest you try another MB dealership.

190Efan

I agree that it's not a recall but it certainly shows an awareness of the problem by MB.

190Efan

I don't believe this is correct as this particular failure is being reported across the board and not just in the U.S.

Elvisfan0108

They are not saying they won’t do the work. They are just saying they will not give a break. There is a difference