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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 08:58 PM
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Adding hydrogen to combustion using hydrogen generator from water

lately i noticed in my country, some peoplevstarted to add hydrogen generator to their car combustion produced from water, claimed additional milage up to 200km.

i just wondering will it cause any damage to engine/ piston etc. will the sensor started to give blaring error message because of different air/fuel mixture.
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Old Jun 28, 2025 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ahhl
lately i noticed in my country, some peoplevstarted to add hydrogen generator to their car combustion produced from water, claimed additional milage up to 200km.

i just wondering will it cause any damage to engine/ piston etc. will the sensor started to give blaring error message because of different air/fuel mixture.
Interesting topic, following.
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how much does thing cost versus fuel savings?

IE how many miles do you have to drive to pay it off?
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Old Jun 28, 2025 | 07:02 AM
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That proccess costs more energy to produce HHO (Braun gas), than profit of using it.

I.e. negative energy balance.
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Old Jun 28, 2025 | 09:10 AM
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i thought you all going to discourage me from installing it🤣🤣🤣🤣

so far i have not seen merz using it..yet
the unit cost about usd300. price varies depend on size of the generator. some generator you only need to refill with water every 2000km.

claimed improvement on milage about 100km to 200km per full fuel tank.
claimed better acceleration.

i noticed it has been used on car before 2018.

​​​​​​disclaimer. i do not know what will it do on modern car.
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Old Jun 29, 2025 | 02:21 AM
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IF it was so great and improved MPG then why didn't MB use it to begin with?

Sometimes you have to ask these basic questions.
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Old Jun 29, 2025 | 02:39 AM
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It costs 4KW electric energy to produce 1KW of hydrogen power so if those 4KW are free like the ones from solar panels, maybe it worth. But usually those free 4KW are not free as the house should have hot water, climate, etc instead a free driving Mercedes.
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Originally Posted by ygmn
IF it was so great and improved MPG then why didn't MB use it to begin with?

Sometimes you have to ask these basic questions.
Indeed - this reeks of the elusive perpetual motion machine. The car's movement drives a generator that provides electricity to perform hydrogen yielding electrolysis, and the hydrogen fuels the car's motor that makes the car move to power the generator to make more hydrogen. The combusted hydrogen combines with oxygen to become water again and refills the water reservoir to be used again to make hydrogen. You can drive across a continent using a continuously recycled gallon of water. Bon voyage!
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Indeed - this reeks of the elusive perpetual motion machine. The car's movement drives a generator that provides electricity to perform hydrogen yielding electrolysis, and the hydrogen fuels the car's motor that makes the car move to power the generator to make more hydrogen. The combusted hydrogen combines with oxygen to become water again and refills the water reservoir to be used again to make hydrogen. You can drive across a continent using a continuously recycled gallon of water. Bon voyage!
Yeah, here we say "Every day is Friday!"....
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Indeed - this reeks of the elusive perpetual motion machine. The car's movement drives a generator that provides electricity to perform hydrogen yielding electrolysis, and the hydrogen fuels the car's motor that makes the car move to power the generator to make more hydrogen. The combusted hydrogen combines with oxygen to become water again and refills the water reservoir to be used again to make hydrogen. You can drive across a continent using a continuously recycled gallon of water. Bon voyage!
i am not promoting it.
just curious of additional milage claimed
its not perpetual machine. you still need to fill up gas and top up the hydrogen tank with water everytime when car tank empty.

you still need to tune the hydrogen/air mixture when using hydrogen generator.
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Old Jun 30, 2025 | 02:13 AM
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$300 is good price. Try it and give us feedback.

AFM is not a problem for any engine since 35 years, lets say. The ECU knows how to manage it.
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Originally Posted by ahhl
i am not promoting it.
just curious of additional milage claimed
its not perpetual machine. you still need to fill up gas and top up the hydrogen tank with water everytime when car tank empty.

you still need to tune the hydrogen/air mixture when using hydrogen generator.
The point everyone is making is that more energy is expended converting water to hydrogen than there is energy gained when combusting hydrogen back into water. But try it and see -- we're all curious.
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Mostly snake oil from what I can see. As pointed out above, there's the first and second law of thermodynamics. It takes more energy to produce hydrogen using electrolysis than is gained from burning the hydrogen afterwards. Claims are being made, but when challenged none of the devices have passed the challenge. Mostly negative results.

Wikipedia while not always the best source sums it up pretty well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fuel_enhancement
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