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Old 10-06-2011, 07:55 AM
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I like my black car, but it is a nightmare.........

you'll figure it out
can't wait to see some pix
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i say go with black and congrats on the car in advance whatever the color was.

i know you will make it look very nice and a one off.

can't wait to see your mods on it.

if you are going to tune it, then why are you going for PP ?
Good question about the PP... in reality for me- I love all the items that come with it: the steering wheel, red calipers, the suspension, and of course the power. Even in the stiffest setting on my W212 E63 Non PP I find it mushy at times so the increased rigidity of the PP on the CLS will be welcoming. Yes if I get a tune it wont be the amazing 80-90 plus hp and 120 tq gains that the normal car would get but Ill still see about 40 hp or so and more tq so Im happy with that. Plus this is the only car I could find that had the other items I liked like carbon fiber and LSD.


Originally Posted by hyperion667
I like my black car, but it is a nightmare.........

you'll figure it out
can't wait to see some pix

Great, now you tell me It looks like black it is though. I do think MBZ paint is pretty good with this color.
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Here is the math I did I know its crazy....

Brembo kit $7200
ECU $3400
DCT Steering wheel $1500

sell my stock brakes $1500. overall cost $10600 vs pp at $7500.

Now lets say you don't care about the brakes and just want red calipers $600, overall cost: $5400. I'm sure the resale on the pp is better than ecu upgrade and dct steering wheel.

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I'd vote go black. I saw my car's black twin the other day, and it looked clean & mean. And re: the HREs, I went with the satin charcoal P40S, so if you want to wait another week-ish, I'll be posting pics. As far as the PP versus tune / other items, this car with PP output is an animal. I traded in my GT500 (with goodies that pushed wheel hp over 600), and this PP car feels just as fast. Good point about resale value with PP versus aftermarket mods from Rob too (because all of us trade / sell sooner than we should).
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I'd vote go black. I saw my car's black twin the other day, and it looked clean & mean. And re: the HREs, I went with the satin charcoal P40S, so if you want to wait another week-ish, I'll be posting pics. As far as the PP versus tune / other items, this car with PP output is an animal. I traded in my GT500 (with goodies that pushed wheel hp over 600), and this PP car feels just as fast. Good point about resale value with PP versus aftermarket mods from Rob too (because all of us trade / sell sooner than we should).
Thomas, we are getting close
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Originally Posted by justthebest
I'd vote go black. I saw my car's black twin the other day, and it looked clean & mean. And re: the HREs, I went with the satin charcoal P40S, so if you want to wait another week-ish, I'll be posting pics. As far as the PP versus tune / other items, this car with PP output is an animal. I traded in my GT500 (with goodies that pushed wheel hp over 600), and this PP car feels just as fast. Good point about resale value with PP versus aftermarket mods from Rob too (because all of us trade / sell sooner than we should).
I love the P40S- I have had the P40 wheels on both my 997TT's... and I know Guy at HRE and am working on set of P47S's for this ride------ your car is gonna be a freak!!! What are the size specs on the wheels along with tire sizes?

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Damn it. Thomas your getting wheels before me!!!! P40S/P47S rock you guys both made killer choices.
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Thomas, we are getting close
I'm on the edge of my seat!

Originally Posted by Vic55
I love the P40S- I have had the P40 wheels on both my 997TT's... and I know Guy at HRE and am working on set of P47S's for this ride------ your car is gonna be a freak!!! What are the size specs on the wheels along with tire sizes?
Thanks - I went 20x9 in the front and 20x10.5 in the rear. I don't want to rub / have to do any suspension modifications to fit some decent rubber back there. We went with an ET30 in the front and an ET45 in the rear. I ordered some Nitto Invos (love the grip & they still work when it gets chilly) that are 255/35 & 295/25.

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Damn it. Thomas your getting wheels before me!!!! P40S/P47S rock you guys both made killer choices.
Thanks. Pretty sure your lowering / tune / etc. will rock the CLS world pretty soon!
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Originally Posted by justthebest
I'd vote go black. I saw my car's black twin the other day, and it looked clean & mean. And re: the HREs, I went with the satin charcoal P40S, so if you want to wait another week-ish, I'll be posting pics. As far as the PP versus tune / other items, this car with PP output is an animal. I traded in my GT500 (with goodies that pushed wheel hp over 600), and this PP car feels just as fast. Good point about resale value with PP versus aftermarket mods from Rob too (because all of us trade / sell sooner than we should).
That's gonna be one sexy setup.
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Black looks amazing but either way I know you will make the car look better.

Maybe we can get two cars and get a deal , haha
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Black looks amazing but either way I know you will make the car look better.

Maybe we can get two cars and get a deal , haha

Too late... and there was only one black. There are two whites but they are missing the items I wanted. I love the black and it does get dirty but I clean my cars often and garage them all the time.
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Congrats Vic, can't wait to see what you do to it. Post pics when you get a chance.
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Well I picked up the black one on Friday. I really didnt take it out for heavy driving until today but the car does definitely move for a 4100 lb beast. As I stated in the opening post I got the Perf Pack, LSD, P1, Carbon Fiber, Driver Assist, Night Vision, Forged 19's and few other inconsequential options.

While I know I could have got the non PP and tuned it, Im glad I got the stiffer suspension. I really like to push the car in the turns and the body roll is less than even my W212 E63 with the front springs. The steering under the PP is great with a "tautness" at heavier speeds and you can always adjust it but reducing the suspension to comfort or just standard AMG sport. The car really moves from a dig and the LSD is a must for the price. Ill tell you this, if you are comfortable in pushing a big car and know its limits, drive it with ESP off (not sport or on but entirely off) so you get the full compliment of tq.

Im doing a "hard break in" like I have on all my AMGS (this is my 5th) by running the car up and down the RPM's but not leaving it in the higher range for long periods of time.

I really enjoy the stock grunt too- its even louder than my E63 which shocked me. Ill be doing the resonator delete option along with the KW lowering (the car sits way too high) and wheels and few other goodies but nothing too extreme. And once I hit 1k Ill up the hp with a tune to reach the max that the car can offer. I already did the instant mod: tint. Now I gotta eliminate those ugly a$$ orange reflectors Im all over the place with wheels but I know Im going with HRE's... hummmmmm P43S's or maybe 793RS's??

Here are some cheap Blackberry pics when I was picking it up.
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Well I picked up the black one on Friday. I really didnt take it out for heavy driving until today but the car does definitely move for a 4100 lb beast. As I stated in the opening post I got the Perf Pack, LSD, P1, Carbon Fiber, Driver Assist, Night Vision, Forged 19's and few other inconsequential options.

While I know I could have got the non PP and tuned it, Im glad I got the stiffer suspension. I really like to push the car in the turns and the body roll is less than even my W212 E63 with the front springs. The steering under the PP is great with a "tautness" at heavier speeds and you can always adjust it but reducing the suspension to comfort or just standard AMG sport. The car really moves from a dig and the LSD is a must for the price. Ill tell you this, if you are comfortable in pushing a big car and know its limits, drive it with ESP off (not sport or on but entirely off) so you get the full compliment of tq.

Keep us posted.

Im doing a "hard break in" like I have on all my AMGS (this is my 5th) by running the car up and down the RPM's but not leaving it in the higher range for long periods of time.

I really enjoy the stock grunt too- its even louder than my E63 which shocked me. Ill be doing the resonator delete option along with the KW lowering (the car sits way too high) and wheels and few other goodies but nothing too extreme. And once I hit 1k Ill up the hp with a tune to reach the max that the car can offer. I already did the instant mod: tint. Now I gotta eliminate those ugly a$$ orange reflectors Im all over the place with wheels but I know Im going with HRE's... hummmmmm P43S's or maybe 793RS's??

Here are some cheap Blackberry pics when I was picking it up.

P43S's will look stunning.

Keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by frontin55
P43S's will look stunning.

Keep us posted.
Yep thats what Im thinking too... gloss, satin, or textured?? Since my paint is glossy Im thinking maybe textured?? Black on black?
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Congrats on the pickup..with everyone getting white, the black was a nice change. Looks evil in black, such a ballsy car.
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Yep thats what Im thinking too... gloss, satin, or textured?? Since my paint is glossy Im thinking maybe textured?? Black on black?
I have a lot of faith in your taste. . . . Whatever you decide I'm confident it will be stunning
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Congrats, can't wait to see when you've finished doing her up.
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Congrats on the pickup..with everyone getting white, the black was a nice change. Looks evil in black, such a ballsy car.
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Congrats, can't wait to see when you've finished doing her up.
Thanks guys---- black is/was a gamble but I am pretty **** in the cleaning dept so it should be good. I just want it modded already damnnnnnnn.
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Enjoy her in good health, great choice excellent color only if we didn't have all the dust and sand of the world I would have got a black one.
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Vic55,

I too have a black 2012 but mine is obsidian black. What kind of rims do you have on your E63 (they are fresh)? I am thinking about going with a carbon fiber finish.

I purchased some rims for my Aston from 360 and was not pleased as the clearcote started to peel in less than a year and the car spends 10 months in storage.

Any suggestions?

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Vic55,

I too have a black 2012 but mine is obsidian black. What kind of rims do you have on your E63 (they are fresh)? I am thinking about going with a carbon fiber finish.

I purchased some rims for my Aston from 360 and was not pleased as the clearcote started to peel in less than a year and the car spends 10 months in storage.

Any suggestions?
I have the HRE C97 Competition wheels on my E63--- they are a step lip wheel so they look smaller but that car is slammed so they look good in actuality. And they weigh 21lbs all the way around.

I always recommend HRE but thats pretty much the only company ill get wheels from.

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P43S in satin black gets my vote.
I think the 590RS will look amazing too (gloss black lip, satin face).
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Real-life considerations do play a role on color selection. The road I have lived on for several years was gravel, and dusty, until early this year, when it was finally paved (my tax dollars at work, however slowly). With the dust in mind, my 2007 BMW 335 hardtop convertible was (and is -- I still have it, and love it) "Platinum Bronze," a metallic beige which closely matches the color of the dust. A brilliant choice, if I do say so myself.

But things change. I tore down my house, and temporarily moved elsewhere while my new house was built. With the announcement that my road would finally be paved, I decided that my next car (I was leaning toward an M5) would be white, as a couple of cars I previously owned were -- my favorite car color, by far.

The new M5s lagged during development, and were uninspiring when renderings finally showed up. Meanwhile, the CLS63 were the buzz. I made my decision before the color options were released. But when the Diamond White showed up as a choice, it was a bonus. A non-metallic white would have been just fine; the metallic tinge of the Diamond White is better.

I'm delighted with Diamond White, but let's face it: on this car, any color would be just fine.

Black cars are not my thing (to me, overly formal [might go with black for an S-Class, or if they ever re-introduce the Adenauer Limo ]), and too hot for the South. But if you maintain the finish as you say, why not?


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