Zod

Then re race ALi and let us know if there is any difference in your mods. Ali this will also help you decide on what mods you need to do . So win win for all

Ali_E55

i am willing to race with you again to see how your car perform now + it is always a pleasure to see your lovely exterior mods

it was in my mind before i see your post

i don't mind at all, it is good also for me to know and use dbasons55 as a modding model

Sher Judge

Our family has a long, 80 year long relation with the Daimler Benz owners and East London factory in South Africa.

From the mid 1930's

We have been buying Mercedes Benz Trucks and fine Automobiles ever since.

So I called one of my close associates at the factory to ask of the said CLS63TT, his answer was as simple as I stated in my comment earlier. Its a standard CLS63TT.

PP cars will be available next year 2012, in South Africa.

Cheers.

Vic55

Oh please go post this at the M5 board....... LOL

its a non PP!!!!!

KLR CLS

The M being Under-rated or not, bottom line is the AMG has more displacement and more torque. Assuming equal launch, and equal shift times, the AMG should be faster with PP. Its pretty simple math.

Misiek4

BTW E63 525HP vs M5 and Panamera Turbo 0-200 times...

Vic55

One would think but there are other reasons why the M5 can make a strong statement.

DCT vs MCT tranny (this is a big piece- the DCT is more efficient and allows more effective hp to the ground)
Gearing
CoEd
HP and TQ over the curve
Weight (this one im not sure who has the edge though- so many different sources)

Misiek4

There are interesting scans from NZ test: click

Sher Judge

F. Y. I.

It must be noted that when all new BMW M-Powered, pre production models arrive in South Africa, they are "Homogolation" models, which means they are seriously very powerful and have the lightest equipment fitted to them from their production factory in Germany.

This should tell us that the Mercedes in it's standard form is nothing to be taken lightly.

Sher Judge

The tests were done in SOUTH AFRICA.

Misiek4

Sorry I meant about magazine name ZA

Sher Judge

You the man, take it easy. Cant wait for the C63TT, to arrive late next year.

Centurion

Troublemaker!!

Gustav will tell you that it was an M3 with 'M5' badges.

Ali_E55

who said it will arrive with a 63TT AKA 5.5TT ??

if they are going to but TT in that car, i think it will hae a smaller engine, maybe the 4.7TT !!

Ali_E55

it is not PP version and it was showing more HP and TQ on the dyno

intresting to see Power loss is less than 10% while th M is abou 15-16%.

standard CLS as less power, no LSD, no better suspension .

i know every M5 has 100% lock diffrential ( which makes a huge diffrence in launching the car and on track)



thanks for the link

Misiek4

Another video from this test: click

Ali_E55

and this one shows clearly the brakes are grey = non PP