Jspeed

And even with videos, there can still be alot of arguments ... just check out youtube ...

phemerlein

Okay well 'FASTER' is completely relative. There is the hp/lb ratio if you wanna call that faster.. faster in acceleration? Are we talking the 1 mile? Are we talking 0-100, 0-60.. We could do this forever. The aventador could have the very same hp/lb ratio as a super modded cls but w/ the higher gear ratio of the aventador the cls will come out on top in acceleration everyday of the week. 'Faster' is debatable forever. Not the be the a55shole here but I'll call out the elephant in the room.

PACougar

I believe we're all speaking in the relative terms described in the race. So "faster" in this case is spelled out for us.

jacob502

Bro,

I believe you. An Aventador has no chance against your car with your mods. It's funny how people want to make you the liar and call BS on your story when you have no reason to do so.

They are jealous. It's obvious. Your one of the few people if not the only person that has turbo upgrades coupled with Exhust + tune. They aren't as dedicated as you are when it comes to tuning and street racing.


Get an Aventador from one of your friends , race it and video tape it. It will be good to shut some of these trolls up. Lets see which of them is at least honorable enough to apologise to you,


Good luck man and keep enjoying your beast.

pullejo

TOTALLY agree... and from experience. I have no doubt (and know) that in the 1/4...any GTR would kill me. Traction is my nemesis - no street tire I've run will take the pedal going all the way down.

But...one of my neighbors who's got a stock '11 GTR regularly gets behind me on our commute in Atlanta while we're turning onto the on ramp on 285. He gets on my butt...then I blast off...and in 12 months, he has never caught me. I don't leave him or pull on him...but he's never caught me. It kills him. :-)

I've never lined up next to my friend's TT CLS63 (Stock)...but I really think it would be damn close to my car. One with upgraded turbos, tuned, etc has got to be insane from 60-XXX. I guarantee it hangs with just about anything on the planet. At speed, I could believe it pulling on an AV.

I swore I'd keep this W211 beast forever - no joke, I've never owned a car this just *right* - and now I'm questioning that with the TTs.

AmmarYasirA

BUT Everyone in ATL needs to get to get together for cars and coffee. All the people in Cali organise it pretty damn well.. And Ive yet to hear one in ATL....

MKB-C32

Don't count the hp and the weight only, tranny, gear ratio and air dynamic...alot of things.

MKB-C32

What is the mods on the GT2?

dbasons55

Ok so I did my research and was really surprised by the findings as you may know and if not you can research it as well, that the drag coeffeciency of the LP700 is 0.33 and the drag coeffeciency of the CLS63 is 0.3! The lower the number the better the aero dynamics of a car! So why does the lambo has a bad drag coeffeciency? It's because of the wider tires and larger rear spoiler! This is strange but very true unfortunately all the info is in the net you can run a search and will get all the details you would need. In the other hand the lambo tranny is better and if we are going to go in simpler details that would be a waste of time. The LP700 is a mighty super car that got slapped by my CLS63, if you have an LP700 in the UAE and would like to prove me wrong bring it on and let's make a good video from a roll for the guys to see it

My GT2 did dyno 620whp and it has turbo upgrades exhaust and a software and it is half a ton less than my CLS63

MKB-C32

Im not saying it can't be done or i'm not beleiving you.
my comments regarding what i'm reading time to time, alot of the people just look at the hp, weights and so on and ignore the most important thing...power to ground.

Regarding the GT2 i was refairing to Jspeed when he mentioned that the CLS63 will wax a modid GT2 and i asked to know becuase i know exactly what the GT2 can do, there is no chance to the CLS to run near the GT2 if it is in good hand.

I don't own an avent. but i own a GT2 if you are intrested.

dbasons55

Ok well sure there are many aspects to define power of a vehicle and thats what I was trying to put together in my reply.
Sure why not I don't mind racing anyone for fun what mods are on your GT2 if you don't mind

MKB-C32

Moded turbos, exhaust & intake.

dbasons55

Where in the UAE are you located?

MKB-C32

Alain

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

Lol dude you are clueless. You do realize that the rest of us live in this world and experience physics the same way you do.

Dbasons. I have no doubt that you killed the Aventador. Many super cars are not all that super in a straight line especially when you have a fire breathing to car like your CLS.

otakki

...Man, I got so excited about possibily seeing a video. Then the wind got blown out of the sail.

I didn't know CLS's Cd is 0.3. I thought it's lower than that since MB has recently been pretty good at lower the Cd on recent cars. I know the non-AMG W212's Cd is 0.26, one of the lowest in production automobile world. I wonder what the Cd of non-AMG CLS.

Also remember Cd is not the entire picture. The car's entire frontal profile needs to be taken into the drag equation. Thus the Aventador's front profile possibly is much smaller since it's so low and "squashed."

Typically various things added to increase the downforce will also raise the Cd and drag. That's another reason that R35 GTR's body is so phenomenal in being able to combine downforce with low drag, and achieve a Cd of 0.27.

Here is an interesting article for those of you interested in the subject around the R35:
http://www.suzukaracing.com/GTR%20pa...etoroadgtr.pdf

Ali_E55

i was once at the back of an Avantador while racing, up untill 300km, an arm behind his rear bumper with a tune and catless downpipe. i could not pass him or reach him. but the distince was still.

and the driver was totally shocked, i smoked an SL T65S (730hp, 1200NM) Brabus easily also.

so i totally believe dbasons55 that he smoked an Avantador easily because he has larger turbos, larger H/E, 3" DP and ofcourse a tune.

MKB-C32

Ali , nothing is impossible. With my previous Supercharged Yukon Denali I smoked a GTR35 from the roll, and you know what's the diff between the two.

otakki

It's good. That means it's pretty much even.