My 7th AMG and the Best One Yet: C63 Black Series
07-17-2012, 09:58 AM
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My 7th AMG and the Best One Yet: C63 Black Series
Posting here too because this is where I have lived for the past few months LOL... thought you guys might like my newest ride:
The title basically says it all. I just picked up this CBS and in my short time of ownership can't be much happier. I have had many AMG's but this one, for me, has to be the best. My priors:
W210 E55
W211 E55
W215 CL65
W212 E63 N/A
C218 CLS 63TT
W212 E63TT Estate
The build on this car which I found as an order cancel at a local dealer has the following options:
Carbon Fiber Exterior
AMG Performance Media
Matte Black Wheels
Illuminated Door Sills
I really feel AMG finally has produced a car that involves the driver and makes the experience that much better. IMHO the AMG's I owned were/are great luxo cars that can go fast and handle reasonably well when pushed to the limits. This car is a much more than that. In my short period of ownership the car amazes me with its steering feel in short turn in's and high speed bends. The suspension is very compliant at slower speeds under mild undulations and firm at higher speeds. I still find this car with the coilover suspension to be reasonably docile in normal driving environments.
Where I really feel AMG stepped it up is with the ECU and TCU. I always have felt the throttle responses and shifting (up and down) had something left to be desired in non tuned cars. This is why I tuned every single one of my AMG’s; not only for HP bumps but for throttle and shift speed improvements. But this car seems to just be perfect from the factory. The throttle reminds me of my S85 and S65 engines in M6 and M3 (E63 and E92). It is so responsive and requires minimal throttle modulation. The shifting in this MCT feels (maybe placebo) better than the prior 3 MCT’s I have had or have. Now I do think the TT MCT’s are slower in response due to the turbos vs. the N/A versions but this car is much better than my E63 N/A stock vs. stock and even stock vs. modded.
The exhaust is amazing- the back fires on upshifts make me smile but the down shift back fires/blips are incredible. Even when I’m coasting to a stop the burble (word?) that comes from the double doubles is the best stock AMG sound ever IMHO. The 60% LSD lock up allows for some good launches- better than that of the CLS-TT with only a 30% lockup LSD.
So that is short version of my thoughts- here are some lower quality pics that my local shop took. We actually were able to lower the car ever so slightly in the rear (no coils) via adjusting the perch height with a 19mm Allen wrench and then we dropped the front to offset. I think the car sits about 1/8 to ¼ lower than before. I love the stock wheels on the car but the fitments are a bit reserved offset wise. The front has probably 10mm more in it and the rears approximately 7mm. I might do some spacers that are hubcentric if I choose to keep these wheels.
The title basically says it all. I just picked up this CBS and in my short time of ownership can't be much happier. I have had many AMG's but this one, for me, has to be the best. My priors:
W210 E55
W211 E55
W215 CL65
W212 E63 N/A
C218 CLS 63TT
W212 E63TT Estate
The build on this car which I found as an order cancel at a local dealer has the following options:
Carbon Fiber Exterior
AMG Performance Media
Matte Black Wheels
Illuminated Door Sills
I really feel AMG finally has produced a car that involves the driver and makes the experience that much better. IMHO the AMG's I owned were/are great luxo cars that can go fast and handle reasonably well when pushed to the limits. This car is a much more than that. In my short period of ownership the car amazes me with its steering feel in short turn in's and high speed bends. The suspension is very compliant at slower speeds under mild undulations and firm at higher speeds. I still find this car with the coilover suspension to be reasonably docile in normal driving environments.
Where I really feel AMG stepped it up is with the ECU and TCU. I always have felt the throttle responses and shifting (up and down) had something left to be desired in non tuned cars. This is why I tuned every single one of my AMG’s; not only for HP bumps but for throttle and shift speed improvements. But this car seems to just be perfect from the factory. The throttle reminds me of my S85 and S65 engines in M6 and M3 (E63 and E92). It is so responsive and requires minimal throttle modulation. The shifting in this MCT feels (maybe placebo) better than the prior 3 MCT’s I have had or have. Now I do think the TT MCT’s are slower in response due to the turbos vs. the N/A versions but this car is much better than my E63 N/A stock vs. stock and even stock vs. modded.
The exhaust is amazing- the back fires on upshifts make me smile but the down shift back fires/blips are incredible. Even when I’m coasting to a stop the burble (word?) that comes from the double doubles is the best stock AMG sound ever IMHO. The 60% LSD lock up allows for some good launches- better than that of the CLS-TT with only a 30% lockup LSD.
So that is short version of my thoughts- here are some lower quality pics that my local shop took. We actually were able to lower the car ever so slightly in the rear (no coils) via adjusting the perch height with a 19mm Allen wrench and then we dropped the front to offset. I think the car sits about 1/8 to ¼ lower than before. I love the stock wheels on the car but the fitments are a bit reserved offset wise. The front has probably 10mm more in it and the rears approximately 7mm. I might do some spacers that are hubcentric if I choose to keep these wheels.
07-17-2012, 11:23 AM
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googly moogly! Vic......you're an animal.........
the best of the beasts
more pictures welcome
the best of the beasts
more pictures welcome
07-17-2012, 11:57 AM
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Again congrats....what a beautiful ride. It really is about perfect right out of the box.
So with this one.... you will lower it a bit and call it a day? I assume there are no tunes out for this car yet. Also, I love these stock rims... so my vote is to let them stay,
So with this one.... you will lower it a bit and call it a day? I assume there are no tunes out for this car yet. Also, I love these stock rims... so my vote is to let them stay,
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07-17-2012, 12:38 PM
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I do believe there are tunes out there that will pull out more HP for the car... but I havent done much research yet.
Thanks Rock, I think Ill keep the wheels for now too.
07-17-2012, 02:16 PM
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what?
either of the R40's would make it just that much better!
either of the R40's would make it just that much better!
07-17-2012, 03:21 PM
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Really like what I'm seeing here, nice purchase with all regards. But ... sorry, those stock wheels just ain't gonna cut it! You need something aftermarket, blacked out, perfectly machined and created just for your setup, something like this. And yeah! I'm completely saying you should go with our MB1's!!!
If there ever was a car you can say titanium graphite MB1's were made for, it would be a C63 Black Series! If you want matte black, you can have it! Machined stripe is mandatory for the additional contrast, but that's about it.
If there ever was a car you can say titanium graphite MB1's were made for, it would be a C63 Black Series! If you want matte black, you can have it! Machined stripe is mandatory for the additional contrast, but that's about it.
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vic - can you comment on the driving experience. which is more fun under load, the gtr you had or the black series. also does the gearbox have the lag in-between shifts in M mode. it shares the same gearbox as the sls amg, right ?
07-17-2012, 09:55 PM
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looks proper nice, keep it as is.
so does the track pack just have the wing, the front carbon thingys and special dunlops. ....
congrats
so does the track pack just have the wing, the front carbon thingys and special dunlops. ....
congrats
