Aventadore vs CLS63
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So I read this whole thread without seeing the Vid cause my Ipad signal was ****. I was feeling sorry for the OP getting so much ****. Then I saw the Vid and was like OMG. The crappiest Vid I've ever seen and it looks like the Aventador had his brakes on!!!!!!! lol
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I have no doubt that dbason has a scary-fast CLS63 and it may be the fastest one out there. I applaud him for using and testing new products that will benefit all of us looking to push our cars a little further. But as a skeptical MBworld member, I want a greater body of evidence than some impromptu street races to claim dominance over an Aventador or any exotic performance car.
Post up some 1/4 mile times or do some side-by-side rolls on the highway with an exotic. All these claims are much easier to accept and digest if you demonstrate results when racing in a relatively controlled environment.
Post up some 1/4 mile times or do some side-by-side rolls on the highway with an exotic. All these claims are much easier to accept and digest if you demonstrate results when racing in a relatively controlled environment.
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Not a bad gear. Seemed like he jumped on the 2nd honk and then let off and then hit it again on the 3rd. He would have beat the C63 even quicker I agree. Probably as fast as I walked him. In my race with the C63 I wasn't in the right gear either due to bad spin at higher RPM and he was ahead and got the jump. On an even start at higher RPM with no spin it wasn't pretty for the C63 verse my Z06:
I agree. Everyone should Go-Pro it all the time so there is little room for speculation.
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Now this was a bad start for the CLS63 and the Z06.
I spun through 3rd gear. (Watch the nose of my Z06 dance around) It looked like the CLS63 spun as well but was able to gain traction quicker than me. The C63 got a nice jump but got into some slow traffic. You can see the Z06 stop the CLS63 bleed and start to gain as we pass the C63. I wish I had better video of me vs the CLS63 but my Go Pro battery was dead. We had some really good races. All very even.
The CLS63 is a beast though. A truly amazing machine and I think I am going to own one soon!
I spun through 3rd gear. (Watch the nose of my Z06 dance around) It looked like the CLS63 spun as well but was able to gain traction quicker than me. The C63 got a nice jump but got into some slow traffic. You can see the Z06 stop the CLS63 bleed and start to gain as we pass the C63. I wish I had better video of me vs the CLS63 but my Go Pro battery was dead. We had some really good races. All very even.
The CLS63 is a beast though. A truly amazing machine and I think I am going to own one soon!
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from rolling 100km - 300km i smoked easily a slight modified Z06 ( LT headers, intake, tune )
even up to 200km and then i gave him more than 3 car lengths up to 300km.
tune and catless downpipe.
Propain, you have a C63, so there is no way you can imagine the new TT how strong it is.
Thericker, i don't know how much your car puts power.
but for info, i smoked Brabus SL T65S 730hp about 4 car lengths. again from rolling 100km - 300km.
i would think that dbasons55 will smoke me about 4 cars lngth if not even more than that.
even up to 200km and then i gave him more than 3 car lengths up to 300km.
tune and catless downpipe.
Propain, you have a C63, so there is no way you can imagine the new TT how strong it is.
Thericker, i don't know how much your car puts power.
but for info, i smoked Brabus SL T65S 730hp about 4 car lengths. again from rolling 100km - 300km.
i would think that dbasons55 will smoke me about 4 cars lngth if not even more than that.
my SL puts down 633 rwhp on pump & 702 rwhp on Q16 rwtq hit 870 
NO spike... (BHP = 856)I know your CLS63's are smokin fast, I just don't think they're trapping 140-145 mph like Dbasson's cls63 would have to do to smoke Aventador or the Ferrari 458 by multi bus lengths..
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I know exactly how strong the TT is. What mods on your CLS?
There is no way you smoked easily a Z06 with tune,headers and intake unless you are modified beyond a tune only on the CLS63 and then I still dont think you would "Easily" walk anything.
You guys seem to think your CLS63's are a bit more than they are. The Z06 stock is a high 10 car in the 1/4 stock. The CLS63 tuned cant even do that. From a roll it does well and stays even with a Z06 but from a dig you will lose all day long in the CLS because its a big fat pig of a car.
Here is a good example: This is a C63 fully modded + Light weight verse the tuned PP CLS63 putting down 570WHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooKR5M9TJFs
This is my Z06 which is stock verse the same C63
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUVYYyd8OJw
As you can see I overtake the C63 just like the CLS63 did. I also raced the same CLS63 up to 170 MPH and I was ahead by 1 1/2 cars.
There is no way you smoked easily a Z06 with tune,headers and intake unless you are modified beyond a tune only on the CLS63 and then I still dont think you would "Easily" walk anything.
You guys seem to think your CLS63's are a bit more than they are. The Z06 stock is a high 10 car in the 1/4 stock. The CLS63 tuned cant even do that. From a roll it does well and stays even with a Z06 but from a dig you will lose all day long in the CLS because its a big fat pig of a car.
Here is a good example: This is a C63 fully modded + Light weight verse the tuned PP CLS63 putting down 570WHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooKR5M9TJFs
This is my Z06 which is stock verse the same C63
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUVYYyd8OJw
As you can see I overtake the C63 just like the CLS63 did. I also raced the same CLS63 up to 170 MPH and I was ahead by 1 1/2 cars.
again you are compairing 1/4 mile times. when i clearly said i started spliting him hard after 200km
to be more accurate from 100km - 200km we were almost even but after 200km i started pulling away from him untill 3 cars lengths.
we tried 3 times and it is all the same, he is my friend and we were trying our best. not a random race.
as for PP tune CLS, i didn't try with one, but when i saw a PP tuned CLS63TT VS SLS that CLS was suffering to beat the SLS and he passed him later on. while i smoke them hard from the moment we try after mine is tuned.
in fact i was passing an SLS after 200km when i was stock ( my car has performance package ) but my speed limiter stops me and SLS got the lead.
my car has OE Tuning & catless downpipe
soon i will install cooling mods to it.
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I know what fast rides feel like my SL puts down 633 rwhp on pump & 702 rwhp on Q16 rwtq hit 870 NO spike... (BHP = 856)
I know your CLS63's are smokin fast, I just don't think they're trapping 140-145 mph like Dbasson's cls63 would have to do to smoke Aventador or the Ferrari 458 by multi bus lengths..
my SL puts down 633 rwhp on pump & 702 rwhp on Q16 rwtq hit 870 NO spike... (BHP = 856)I know your CLS63's are smokin fast, I just don't think they're trapping 140-145 mph like Dbasson's cls63 would have to do to smoke Aventador or the Ferrari 458 by multi bus lengths..
again we are not talking about 1/4 times and traps. we are talking about rolling races and the new CLS63TT are dead fast after tuned and modified.
you have to try with some of them which are tuned ( renntech, OE tuning, etc )
i don't know why, but others say mine has more mods then these although there aren't any thing other than Downpipes with no cats and a hell of nice OE Tuning.
but compared to other tuned ones, mine rocks
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I wouldn't reject dbason55's claims so quick.
Renntech is working on larger turbos already and they fully expect the car to drop in the 9s (1/4 mile),with trap speed at close to 140mph or even higher.
Dbason55 has the larger turbos already so anything is possible.....
Renntech is working on larger turbos already and they fully expect the car to drop in the 9s (1/4 mile),with trap speed at close to 140mph or even higher.
Dbason55 has the larger turbos already so anything is possible.....
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The CLS63 in the video also had an OE tune and had the Performance Package.
How much you putting down to the wheels? 580, 590RWHP... maybe?
Sorry bro, you guys talk a lot of smack with no proof. If you were here I would put money down on the table saying you wouldnt walk my Z06 by 3 cars with your mods and I am STOCK. With headers, intake and tune you wouldnt come close to walking me. I raced the OE tuned CLS63 to 170. I know you are talking about 200km+. I was ahead by about 1 1/2 cars at 170. Give him your mods and we would have probably been even. Maybe he would be ahead by a little. Give me headers, tune and intake and there is no chance in hell his car would be ahead.
Again, either something is very wrong with your friends Z06 or I call
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If you guys don't run quarter miles, what do you run?
3 quarter mile, mile, run until terminal velocity is reached?
You can always take snipets from a race and claim victory...
3 quarter mile, mile, run until terminal velocity is reached?
You can always take snipets from a race and claim victory...
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We do street races mostly from a roll unlikely from digs, probably if propane drives his car better than Ali's friend that would probably answer why Ali could have got a better lead in his car, we only recently have had a 1/4 mile open, and will be going there when the weather cool down, hopefully getting some solid numbers that can be compared.
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my friends Z06 smokes SLS all time.
he drives it good. and from lower speeds i know he will get the lead about 2 cars but from rolling, it is a diffrent stroy.
i will try to get some videos when i race.
US customers are always hard to please.
and you guys own benz, i can't imagine if Beemers were here.
he drives it good. and from lower speeds i know he will get the lead about 2 cars but from rolling, it is a diffrent stroy.
i will try to get some videos when i race.
US customers are always hard to please.
and you guys own benz, i can't imagine if Beemers were here.
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my friends Z06 smokes SLS all time.
he drives it good. and from lower speeds i know he will get the lead about 2 cars but from rolling, it is a diffrent stroy.
i will try to get some videos when i race.
US customers are always hard to please.
and you guys own benz, i can't imagine if Beemers were here.
he drives it good. and from lower speeds i know he will get the lead about 2 cars but from rolling, it is a diffrent stroy.
i will try to get some videos when i race.
US customers are always hard to please.
and you guys own benz, i can't imagine if Beemers were here.
Sounds like your Z06 friend cant drive. Bring your car here and ill show you what a Z06 can do.
Z06 is actually better from a roll than from a dig. Its very hard to get a Z06 out from a dig due to either traction problems or bog.
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Hasn't been to the track yet. Just got it this summer. Ran 11.5 @ 127 on street tires with a 2.0 60' on the Vbox in 80 degrees. Sub 8 second 60-130 as well.
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I would love to see what that thing can do,60ft, with some tires, maybe some drag radial's. What does it weigh? I ask because I used to be a vette guy back in the day. I had a 96' Grand Sport with a 406 small block in it on one stage(progressive fogger). I was running 9:30's with a 28x10.5 slick.The cool thing was that I used to drive it around town like a total street car, and used to win alot of street races out here in Philly. It was a total sleeper for what it ran, and it was going 10:50's 60's on motor. It weighed 3260 with me in it. Guys out here are going crazy fast with just a little work done, to their Z06's.. But You still can't count out these cls63's, things are nasty, especially with the tuners and other work. I can see the OP's car beating the Lambo, the street is a whole different ballgame, and if your not a good driver, I don't care how fast your car is, you can get beat easily by something that you know your car is faster than.
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I would love to see what that thing can do,60ft, with some tires, maybe some drag radial's. What does it weigh? I ask because I used to be a vette guy back in the day. I had a 96' Grand Sport with a 406 small block in it on one stage(progressive fogger). I was running 9:30's with a 28x10.5 slick.The cool thing was that I used to drive it around town like a total street car, and used to win alot of street races out here in Philly. It was a total sleeper for what it ran, and it was going 10:50's 60's on motor. It weighed 3260 with me in it. Guys out here are going crazy fast with just a little work done, to their Z06's.. But You still can't count out these cls63's, things are nasty, especially with the tuners and other work. I can see the OP's car beating the Lambo, the street is a whole different ballgame, and if your not a good driver, I don't care how fast your car is, you can get beat easily by something that you know your car is faster than.
96 GS. Very sweet. Damn, 9.3 is scary fast. I have 2 cars that run in the 9's and its no joke.
I dont count out the CLS63. I saw first hand how amazing it ran against my Z06. I just think there is a limit due to its weight. But in racing the only limit really is money. If you have enough the sky is the limit.
In the end the driver mod is the best one. You can have all the power in the world, if you don't know how to drive it then its not going anywhere.
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Probably 1.7-1.8 60' stock depending on the size of the rims and drags. It takes a lot of skill to launch a Z06. It weighs 3150.
96 GS. Very sweet. Damn, 9.3 is scary fast. I have 2 cars that run in the 9's and its no joke.
I dont count out the CLS63. I saw first hand how amazing it ran against my Z06. I just think there is a limit due to its weight. But in racing the only limit really is money. If you have enough the sky is the limit.
In the end the driver mod is the best one. You can have all the power in the world, if you don't know how to drive it then its not going anywhere.
96 GS. Very sweet. Damn, 9.3 is scary fast. I have 2 cars that run in the 9's and its no joke.
I dont count out the CLS63. I saw first hand how amazing it ran against my Z06. I just think there is a limit due to its weight. But in racing the only limit really is money. If you have enough the sky is the limit.
In the end the driver mod is the best one. You can have all the power in the world, if you don't know how to drive it then its not going anywhere.
So true on all points, especially the money...lol And if you ever run that red beast at the track, I would love to see the numbers. Later
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Probably 1.7-1.8 60' stock depending on the size of the rims and drags. It takes a lot of skill to launch a Z06. It weighs 3150.
96 GS. Very sweet. Damn, 9.3 is scary fast. I have 2 cars that run in the 9's and its no joke.
I dont count out the CLS63. I saw first hand how amazing it ran against my Z06. I just think there is a limit due to its weight. But in racing the only limit really is money. If you have enough the sky is the limit.
In the end the driver mod is the best one. You can have all the power in the world, if you don't know how to drive it then its not going anywhere.
96 GS. Very sweet. Damn, 9.3 is scary fast. I have 2 cars that run in the 9's and its no joke.
I dont count out the CLS63. I saw first hand how amazing it ran against my Z06. I just think there is a limit due to its weight. But in racing the only limit really is money. If you have enough the sky is the limit.
In the end the driver mod is the best one. You can have all the power in the world, if you don't know how to drive it then its not going anywhere.
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Agreed on the tranny of the CLS. What a great design. At first I was beating the CLS then the driver made some changed to the mode he was in and next thing you know we were even and sometimes he pulled a little if I was slow on the shift. Hell of a car.
