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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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i just took my cls63 pp to the track and i was very unhappy with my time 12.7 at 119mph i set it to S+ traction fully off i didn't use RS mode i only had two runs is this the best settings for the track?

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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 03:00 PM
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i just took my cls63 pp to the track and i was very unhappy with my time 12.7 at 119mph i set it to S+ traction fully off i didn't use RS mode i only had two runs is this the best settings for the track?

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Were you running the stock Conti's? Can you share the slip?
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by angelo63
i just took my cls63 pp to the track and i was very unhappy with my time 12.7 at 119mph i set it to S+ traction fully off i didn't use RS mode i only had two runs is this the best settings for the track?

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What track, what was the DA, track prep etc.... lots of things here need to be answered. Also your 119 trap isnt all that bad.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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What track, what was the DA, track prep etc.... lots of things here need to be answered. Also your 119 trap isnt all that bad.
englishtown nj.. yes stock Conti's i have the slip but dont know how to post it

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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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That used to be my home track back in the day, so I'm assuming that the prep was good. What was your 60' and 1/8, because you were coming on like a freight train with that mph.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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you can run low 11s with a 119. it's all about traction. 60ft....

going to the drag strip on street tires is sort of a waste of time.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
you can run low 11s with a 119. it's all about traction. 60ft....

going to the drag strip on street tires is sort of a waste of time.
I don't know about a low 11, but deep into the 11's for sure(maybe 60's 70's with drag radials). In the w212 amg forum, a guy ran a 11:98 at 118mph stock, on street tires,, and it was a non pp car. Curious to see the first half track times
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 01:22 AM
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the car next to me was a s63 with nitto tires and a renntech tune
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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S 63 60 ft time tells the story. I have run against that S63 and he gets a good launch. Your 60 ft times cost you at least .5 second.
My E63TTPP (stock) runs consistent 11.60s-70s at 122 with drag radials. I launch S+ traction control off.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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I'm no expert but guessing your rear tires spun a bunch by that 60'.

My gtech meter shows better 0-60 times in sport mode vs sport+ if I mash the gas pedal as the rear wheels will spin too much in sport+. That is with Traction ON and you had yours off. I've yet to better my times with traction off and in sport+ but I've only done a handful of runs. BTW, best run measured was 3.91 seconds 0-60 non PP car.

You may already now this but If you use Sport+ you need to be extra careful and feather the gas off the line to prevent tire spin as much as you can (especially so if you have traction off). With traction off the tires will spin way to easy and kill your times.

When one has a bad start, MPH is usually a better guideline of what a car has in it compared to elapsed time.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by angelo63
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the car next to me was a s63 with nitto tires and a renntech tune
Angelo, check out the w212amg forum, look for a post," best 1/4 times". The guy on there that ran the 11:98 on stock tires (and non pp) had a, I believe, a 1.9 60 foot. He posted a video of the run and the car hooked, maybe he posted what he set the car to for launch. Figured it could help since the CLS and E AMG's are pretty much the same car.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Here's the thread.https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...e63-times.html

Check out the video and his time slip.
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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well going back to the track today ill let you guys know how i do... i think i am gonna use race start but i cant get my car to go in to RS mode??
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by angelo63
well going back to the track today ill let you guys know how i do... i think i am gonna use race start but i cant get my car to go in to RS mode??
Sorry I can't help you with the RS mode question(I just have a non amg w212,,lol),, But good luck at the track. Wish I was free tonight, I would go check you run at Englishtown. I was just over on route 33 an hour ago near Freehold. Temperature should be good to make alot of power, but not so good for traction.
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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well going back to the track today ill let you guys know how i do... i think i am gonna use race start but i cant get my car to go in to RS mode??
That's very simple, first you have to set the traction setting to sport, when you are in a stand still select RS, pull the right shiffter up on your steering wheel to confirm using race start, nail the gas paddle to the floor let go of the breaks to race star good luck
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Hey, how did you do the other night at the track?
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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sorry guys havent't had time to post.. well i gave it a another try at the track and i used RS mode and WOW it was like a different car 11.7 at 120mph https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...1&d=1348265529
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Great run.

Interesting that you had a 1.84 60' time on streeet tires. For example the S63 with a tune you raced previously had a 1.94 60' on Nitto drag radials.

The best 60' time (E63TTPP) I have ever had with drag radials at Englishtown is 1.80. I have 20 plus runs at Englishtown with my E63.

Granted I run BF Goodrich DRs...not the best traction, but the best fit.

Do I have it correct you are running street tires?

Has anybody else run 1.80+/- 60' times on street tires?

If so please let me know your secret to these launches as I will get rid of my DRs as they are a pain in the rear throwing rubber all over the undercarriage, fenders, wheel wells, etc. even though I use tons of tape.
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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Great run.

Interesting that you had a 1.84 60' time on streeet tires. For example the S63 with a tune you raced previously had a 1.94 60' on Nitto drag radials.

The best 60' time (E63TTPP) I have ever had with drag radials at Englishtown is 1.80. I have 20 plus runs at Englishtown with my E63.

Granted I run BF Goodrich DRs...not the best traction, but the best fit.

Do I have it correct you are running street tires?

Has anybody else run 1.80+/- 60' times on street tires?

If so please let me know your secret to these launches as I will get rid of my DRs as they are a pain in the rear throwing rubber all over the undercarriage, fenders, wheel wells, etc. even though I use tons of tape.
yes i am running the stock tires 37 psi two gallons of 100 octane and res delete thats it

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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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yes i am running the stock tires 37 psi two gallons of 100 octane and res delete thats it
Nice run
Did the 100 Oct. helped any? I was thinking the Computer was set for 93 Oct.
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