AMG-1

I have had a down payment on a CLS 63 AMG for about a year. My MB dealer at the time did not know what I was talking about but obviously sytill took the money and wrote a receipt that says: CLS 63 AMG...

After the anouncement of the ML63 AMG, my sales person decided to inquire on the CLS 63. He just wrote me an e-mail 2 days ago and said that the general manager of the dealership confirmed April 2006. I have to make sure if it means official ordering or delivery....no matter what, it should mean a CLS63 for summer 2006.....

20C4S

should be interesting to see how it performs. although the NA engine will be more ideal & less stress on the engine but the supercharged 55 engine might be more street friendly in daily driving in US. anyways wouldn't hurt to phone the dealer to put the deposit down. thanks for the info!

terrence

but I suspect the 55 is better suited to daily driving in the US, just like 20C4S said. The 63 engine, as reviewed in the most recent issue of EVO, is a high revving engine with less torque than the 55 and delivers hp and torque at a much higher rpm. The new engine is a great engine in a sports car and on a track, but I think the 55 will be better for daily city driving.

20C4S

turbocharged 63 engine is where the bomb is! too bad it'll be out of the price range i'm willing to pay for MB cars. :p

Tony007

The 55 will definitely feel better driving around town on the "butt-o-meter" with all that torque down low. But the 63 will probably edge it out in the 1/4 mile drag. The 63 has the ability to keep the revs high and shift points in the power band should result in a harder pull up top. Hell, if they get the gearing right it will probably take the M5, no problem.

I'm kinda pumped about this new engine and now that they might be releasing it around mid 06. You think it would be coming out as an 07 model?

Next question is if you had a Dec-Jan delivery date for a 55 would you wait just a bit longer for this 63?

jmeyers

Absolutely not. In fact, based on what I read, I would strongly prefer a 5.5 vs. a 6.3 -- given the option.

I already have a CLS 55, but I am on the list for another one -- I want the Performance Package (and the Designo Mystic White). However, the one thing that might cause me to cancel my order would be if the 5.5 supercharged engine is no longer available.

If I had wanted the performance characteristics of an M5, I would have ordered one!

jikjak

how is mystic white different from alabaster white?

FloridaE55

Hey jikjak,

I already answered this question:

designo-link

clkcadet

mystic white sounds to die for, i cant wait to see it

jikjak

kool thanks!

it would be interesting to see how it looks

amgbg

Hello everybody.
Forgot my user id and password, but now I am back.

Anyways, there has been alot of talk about the 63 engine being less torque than the 55K. But, lets take the 7 speed into consideration. After I did a simple math,(which I don't know if its acurate), the 7 speed will put more torque to the ground in 1st gear than the 55K and its 5 speed. Now I have the E55 right now. Its impossible to get all 519lbs down until you are past around 20mph. So the first 20-30 mph, you are only even with an 540i, but then after that, its lights out. The traction is very bad with the 55K motors. But I think, the 63 engine will put out even more torque based on the gears.

Just my 2 cents.

20C4S

make sense. the new tranny will be another big selling point of the car. in a MB marketing stand point there's no way the 63 will be slower than 55. just gonna find a way to to please the new 63 buyers at the same time not to **** off the 55 owners, considering the CLS55 is a really short production run for the model.

slk55lvr

Possibly the shortest production run in history! If they are really moving this engine up to production that quickly, it's bound to wreak havoc on 55 models.

amg55

Since that engine has been in production almost 6 years now, it's no sacrifice for MB to cut the CLS55 run short. Engine development costs were recouped years ago, and the CLS is a hybrid model which cost a fraction of what it cost to bring the W211 E class to production.
But, yes, the CLS55 production run will likely be one of the shorter ones in recent MB history.

idrive

But, yes, the CLS55 production run will likely be one of the shorter ones in recent MB history.[/QUOTE]

So do you think that will help or hurt the resale value of the car??

20C4S

So do you think that will help or hurt the resale value of the car?? [/QUOTE]

new model will always affect the old model in a not-so-positive way but at least i'm enjoying the car now. life is too short to worry so much.

idrive

I love my cls55. Almost glad there won't be so many of them. But then I don't usually keep a car more than 2 years anyway. I think the wife has her eye on it...

Speed Thrills

Just saw a review of the ML63 (which I think will be the first 63 out) and Mercedes claims the engine as the "world's most powerful naturally aspirated production eight-cylinder." Doesnt sound good for the K55.

FloridaE55

I don't see a reason why I should prefer the 63-version!?
This version his a few horses more, but has less lb-ft of torque. So what's the big story behind this engine?

medici78

It is the first engine fully developed by AMG.
Seems to be that the real equalizer is the 7-speed transmission. However, there's a reason the 5-speed is still on the V12 models and that is because it can handle more power. If you are into modding your cars, the 55K engine seems to be the better option due to the robustness of its components. If I wanted a high revving engine I'd lean towards BMW. I like the musclecar torque and power the 55K engine provides on demand. A higher revving engine may seem "sexier", but I love torque. As for the lack of 2 more gears, I dont think its that big of a deal. Some of the fastest drag racers run 2-speed powerglides. Personally, I'll wait until they drop a twin turbo 63 engine in the E or CLS.

FloridaE55

I agree on that 100%. There might be some improvements over the 55-version, but I doubt that I would delay my order or even switch my current car (if I'd already own a CLS 55) for this change.

jikjak

im not too keen on this new 63 engine. the hp is just a little higher thatn ours but the torque is quite a bit lower, kinda like how the newer bmws and audis are. i wish mb didnt have to follow suit. id like to have the 7 speed though

well at least we can just spend a few more grand to have more hp than the 63 engine and the extra torque would be bonuS! hehe