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09-01-2005, 06:08 PM
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Wheel weight
Originally Posted by AMG2GO
Car looks Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Glad to see you got change back from 100K.
Renntechs all the way if you want performance. 10 pounds less per wheel, stronger wheel too. They say 1 pound of rotational unsprung weight= 10 pounds of sprung weight. Lets say this is not true and that its not 10, or 7, or even 5.... lets just say 4. 10 pounds on 4 wheels = 40 pounds... in sprung weight at (4x) = 160. Just the wheel difference alone is like taking 160 pounds out of your car. If you do 8 pounds thats 320 pounds.
You car will definitely RIDE better believe it or not, because ride quality on bumps is dependent on wheel weight... handle better, stop better. There is no lighter wheel than the Monolite. If performance matters, its a no brainer.
Also beware of tire weights... they sit at the edge of the rotational mass making the biggest difference. Some are definitely lighter than others. You can see complete weight specs at the tire rack. Michelin PS2... light, very good tire. Don't go too big... it may look good but it will kill your car.
Renntechs all the way if you want performance. 10 pounds less per wheel, stronger wheel too. They say 1 pound of rotational unsprung weight= 10 pounds of sprung weight. Lets say this is not true and that its not 10, or 7, or even 5.... lets just say 4. 10 pounds on 4 wheels = 40 pounds... in sprung weight at (4x) = 160. Just the wheel difference alone is like taking 160 pounds out of your car. If you do 8 pounds thats 320 pounds.
You car will definitely RIDE better believe it or not, because ride quality on bumps is dependent on wheel weight... handle better, stop better. There is no lighter wheel than the Monolite. If performance matters, its a no brainer.
Also beware of tire weights... they sit at the edge of the rotational mass making the biggest difference. Some are definitely lighter than others. You can see complete weight specs at the tire rack. Michelin PS2... light, very good tire. Don't go too big... it may look good but it will kill your car.
Thanks for the great info! Confirmed what my tech guy told me. He said the Brabus wheels look great but are very heavy, heavier than the already heavy AMG stocks. Never thought wheel weight would make such a huge impact on performance. Not that I'm racing for 10ths of seconds on a track but sounds like Renntech is a good way to go.
09-02-2005, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Actually with the extra charge for the phone hardwear it put me just over the 100k mark.
Thanks for the great info! Confirmed what my tech guy told me. He said the Brabus wheels look great but are very heavy, heavier than the already heavy AMG stocks. Never thought wheel weight would make such a huge impact on performance. Not that I'm racing for 10ths of seconds on a track but sounds like Renntech is a good way to go.
Thanks for the great info! Confirmed what my tech guy told me. He said the Brabus wheels look great but are very heavy, heavier than the already heavy AMG stocks. Never thought wheel weight would make such a huge impact on performance. Not that I'm racing for 10ths of seconds on a track but sounds like Renntech is a good way to go.
The monolites are 20. Its freaky... they feel like plastic when you pick them up. I lift them with one finger.
09-03-2005, 01:06 PM
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Bigger Is Better !
Originally Posted by AMG2GO
Don't go too big... it may look good but it will kill your car.
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09-04-2005, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Evolution Marine
I just checked the Tire Rack and a PS2 rear tire 285/30 YR19 weighs 28 lbs and a 305/30 YR19 weighs 29 lbs., and a PS2 front tire 255/35 YR19 weighs 25 lbs. and a 265/35 YR19 weighs 25 lbs and a 275/30 YR19 weighs 25 lbs. So size does not affect the weight/performance envelope for the CLS55 when using PS2 tires. - Bob
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09-06-2005, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Dropping off for the Kleemann Mod and Renntech wheels next monday. Will keep all posted.
09-06-2005, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JamE55
What kind of kleemann mod will you be doing? Good choice.
09-06-2005, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Going with the K1 (Pulley + ECU). If that brings me the 520hp and 750 torque that they claim I'll be a happy camper. Also curious how loosing 10lbs on each wheel will help the total package. We'll see.
09-06-2005, 05:23 PM
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Sprung and Un-Sprung Weight
I found there is a huge debate on the effects and differences between sprung and unsprung weight. Here are a few links that seem to explain it best. From all the reading I have gathered that a lighter wheel setup can only improve performance. While they may not be the equivalent of 1lb of un-sprung =10lbs of sprung they do require less power to rotate and also give better handling and traction. Read up for your self. You might want to pop an aspirin before jumping into it.
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/sprung-c.htm
http://www.audiworld.com/tech/wheel13.shtml
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/rota...ues-46496.html
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/sprung-c.htm
http://www.audiworld.com/tech/wheel13.shtml
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/rota...ues-46496.html
09-06-2005, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Thrills
Going with the K1 (Pulley + ECU). If that brings me the 520hp and 750 torque that they claim I'll be a happy camper. Also curious how loosing 10lbs on each wheel will help the total package. We'll see.
09-06-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony007
Are you going to get a dyno done before and after the K1? That would be a great idea to see what the real world results of the K1 upgrade really are. I'm also possibly interested in doing the K1 when my car comes in around Dec-Jan
They do not have one where it's being installed but I will go to a local dyno for a before and after.
09-06-2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony007
When are you planning on getting the K1 installed? How much does it cost?
09-06-2005, 09:43 PM
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Speed Thrills,
Congrats! What a beautfiul car and kudos for your choice in color. IMO, the black best suits the lines of the gorgeous CLS
Please post pics of the front of the car, you left out the best part. Oh, and please make it high res so I can wallpaper it
Either monoblocks or renntechs will suit the car fine. If I were leaning in a direction, I would prob. pick the monoblocks
Congrats! What a beautfiul car and kudos for your choice in color. IMO, the black best suits the lines of the gorgeous CLS
Please post pics of the front of the car, you left out the best part. Oh, and please make it high res so I can wallpaper it
Either monoblocks or renntechs will suit the car fine. If I were leaning in a direction, I would prob. pick the monoblocks
09-07-2005, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RezF
Speed Thrills,
Congrats! What a beautfiul car and kudos for your choice in color. IMO, the black best suits the lines of the gorgeous CLS
Please post pics of the front of the car, you left out the best part. Oh, and please make it high res so I can wallpaper it
Either monoblocks or renntechs will suit the car fine. If I were leaning in a direction, I would prob. pick the monoblocks
Congrats! What a beautfiul car and kudos for your choice in color. IMO, the black best suits the lines of the gorgeous CLS
Please post pics of the front of the car, you left out the best part. Oh, and please make it high res so I can wallpaper it
Either monoblocks or renntechs will suit the car fine. If I were leaning in a direction, I would prob. pick the monoblocks
09-07-2005, 01:35 PM
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Yeah....post pics of that front end. Thats the best part of the whole car!!!
I bet it must look wild when you are driving down the highway and you see this mean @ss CLS come bearing down on you in the rearview mirror!!! You must scare people *****less.
I bet it must look wild when you are driving down the highway and you see this mean @ss CLS come bearing down on you in the rearview mirror!!! You must scare people *****less.
09-07-2005, 04:07 PM
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Front
Originally Posted by Stiggs
Yeah....post pics of that front end. Thats the best part of the whole car!!!
I bet it must look wild when you are driving down the highway and you see this mean @ss CLS come bearing down on you in the rearview mirror!!! You must scare people *****less.
I bet it must look wild when you are driving down the highway and you see this mean @ss CLS come bearing down on you in the rearview mirror!!! You must scare people *****less.
