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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Nav Accuracy, why?

So I don't get it. Why does MB still insist of giving us a range of address to choose from when I am sure the GPS is perfectly capable of pinpointing the exact building?
The reason i believe this is when I put in a POI it takes me to the exact location rather than a nearby address. Anyone have any idea why this is?

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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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I totally agree with you. I awas hopeing it was better in newer vehicles. My CLS 55's nav totally sucks. The BMW M5 nav is far far superior.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Thats a good questions I would really like to know that answer.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by trezaei
So I don't get it. Why does MB still insist of giving us a range of address to choose from when I am sure the GPS is perfectly capable of pinpointing the exact building?
The reason i believe this is when I put in a POI it takes me to the exact location rather than a nearby address. Anyone have any idea why this is?

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If addresses were mathematically determined it would be easy, but they're not. The spacing between houses varies on every street, and the numbers assigned are sometimes close together and sometimes fairly widely spread. The only way to get what you want is for every address in the country to essentially be a POI in the database. There isn't nearly enough storage on the DVD to do that, so they use ranges. It's a bit of a pain, but it's all they can do with the state of the art data compression and current dual-layer DVD capacity. When you have room for millions, not thousands, of discrete entries (as mapquest or google maps does, for instance) you do better.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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I agree that it is a challenge with pinpointing exact address #'s on a street, but how can that explain why aftermarket Nav systems are capable of this and our OEM can not? Case in point, my wife's Magellan is far far superior to the Nav I have in my car. It even tells me that the destination is on the right or left when I'm nearing it. Not to mention that the POIs on these aftermarket devices makes the OEM look archaic. (on the Magellan, can sort out restaurants by cuisine type (indian, japanese, seafood, etc), the listing then pops up with a phone # (which is a great feature so you can call and see if that place is still open (I have had a few instances where I used the MB nav to a restaurant only to get there and find it's been out of business (still using the latest Nav release). The only things I hate about the Magellan, seems like it takes a long time to acquire its GPS location (which is strange b/c when I start up the MB nav it almost instantaneously gets satellite lock) and the fact that it doesn't have an integrated look.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Yes, whatever explanation you come up with, won't hold here... simply because (as many people have stated), there are products available which pinpoint the exact address.

Here are my workarounds to this problem:

1. When I save an address, I put in the house number into the name of the saved address.

e.g. Let's say I want to go to Borders, and the address is 429 ABC Street. Then, I put in the address, where I am forced to choose a range: 401..499. Finally, I save the address as "Borders 429" so that I am aware of the address.

If it doesn't get me close enough, then I resort to Option 2:

2. When I get to my destination, I drive up to the entrance and then save the Current Location into the address book, then I also name it as described above.

Hope that works for you.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shahedC
Yes, whatever explanation you come up with, won't hold here... simply because (as many people have stated), there are products available which pinpoint the exact address.

Here are my workarounds to this problem:

1. When I save an address, I put in the house number into the name of the saved address.

e.g. Let's say I want to go to Borders, and the address is 429 ABC Street. Then, I put in the address, where I am forced to choose a range: 401..499. Finally, I save the address as "Borders 429" so that I am aware of the address.

If it doesn't get me close enough, then I resort to Option 2:

2. When I get to my destination, I drive up to the entrance and then save the Current Location into the address book, then I also name it as described above.

Hope that works for you.
Which brings up another good point. HOW do you save the "Current" location?
The only way I can do it is if have map view, then I hit the arrow to move just a tad, then I can save that location which is pretty ghey. Anyone come up with a better way?

Oh and I sooo do not buy the fact that all NAVs have this limitations. It's very simple. It could at least try and extrapolate the locatoin.


14000 |------------------*----------------|14700

so naturally 14350 would be somewhere in the middle. That's all I ask, not an absolutely exact driveway, I understand that would require some very accurate POI data.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trezaei
Which brings up another good point. HOW do you save the "Current" location?
The only way I can do it is if have map view, then I hit the arrow to move just a tad, then I can save that location which is pretty ghey. Anyone come up with a better way?
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LOL... that's the only way I've found... I discovered it by accident, but didn't mention it, thinking that I was doing it wrong.

Here's another trivia question: how do you display a turn-by-turn text version of the nav directions once your route has been calculated?
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shahedC
LOL... that's the only way I've found... I discovered it by accident, but didn't mention it, thinking that I was doing it wrong.

Here's another trivia question: how do you display a turn-by-turn text version of the nav directions once your route has been calculated?
I was told it was for security reasons. if someone is valet'ing your car or worse, steals it, they can't tell exactly where you live or exactly where you like to go all the time.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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I was told it was for security reasons. if someone is valet'ing your car or worse, steals it, they can't tell exactly where you live or exactly where you like to go all the time.
This would be the absolute dumbest reason I could think of not to have accurate directions. Cause when they get to your block, they can just hold down the garage opener button until it opens ...
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shahedC
LOL... that's the only way I've found... I discovered it by accident, but didn't mention it, thinking that I was doing it wrong.

Here's another trivia question: how do you display a turn-by-turn text version of the nav directions once your route has been calculated?

Not very well done but you basically click route, info, or something like that. It is definitely possible but it doesn't show you a good list.

Another thing that would be cool to have is the name of the next street that I need to look out for more than one mile before i get to it. Some very trivial things. Also I personally feel the NAV screen should be much higher up, but it looks like the new C-Class is going to address this. Anyone know if the NAV unit/software is actually going to be any different in that model and if there will be a software upgrade available for us?
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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I was told it was for security reasons. if someone is valet'ing your car or worse, steals it, they can't tell exactly where you live or exactly where you like to go all the time.
That can't be right... if someone is inside your car, then he is already either at your home or a place that you went to.

If your car is being stolen, u have bigger problems to worry about.. !


Originally Posted by trezaei
Not very well done but you basically click route, info, or something like that. It is definitely possible but it doesn't show you a good list.
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Yeah, you have to go through a bunch of non-intuitive menu options, through Route, then List, or something like that..
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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I briefly read the back and forth on this thread. The nav sucks, period!!! I had a $33k Acura TL which would give you specific addresses and you could use voice to locate restaurants etcs. I also have the '07 GL450. This nav is far superior to the one in my CLS55 (which was $30k more). It will take you to the front door of any home in any sub-division in America; lake homes, mountain cabins, etc. Not as good as the Acura, but it will pinpoint locations. Same manufacturer. Somebody needs to complain. The one in my old SL was just as bad as the one in the CLS.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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I briefly read the back and forth on this thread. The nav sucks, period!!! I had a $33k Acura TL which would give you specific addresses and you could use voice to locate restaurants etcs. I also have the '07 GL450. This nav is far superior to the one in my CLS55 (which was $30k more). It will take you to the front door of any home in any sub-division in America; lake homes, mountain cabins, etc. Not as good as the Acura, but it will pinpoint locations. Same manufacturer. Somebody needs to complain. The one in my old SL was just as bad as the one in the CLS.

WHAT!!!?? Your GL has a different NAV? Now I'm pissed! Does the hardware look the same at least? If it does then there is hope we'll get that update. Sons-o-*****es.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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WHAT!!!?? Your GL has a different NAV? Now I'm pissed! Does the hardware look the same at least? If it does then there is hope we'll get that update. Sons-o-*****es.
woah... what? the GL has a better nav?

I spent $60k on my 2007 SLK with all the Premium packages, and I have a "lesser" nav?

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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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OMG! I couldn't agree with you guys more. The Nav on our cars suck big time. My $600 TomTom will even tell you what street to turn to and it doesn't even use a disc. MB should improve the Navi of their cars because this is one sorry equipment. My G35 had superior nav functions and accuracy compared to my CLS.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by trezaei
WHAT!!!?? Your GL has a different NAV? Now I'm pissed! Does the hardware look the same at least? If it does then there is hope we'll get that update. Sons-o-*****es.
The hardware looks absolutely the same. The nav. disc is loaded behind the screen up front and the single disc insert is just beneath it. But once the screen folds back flat everything looks the same. The graphics are better and more defined. It doesn't give you ranges for street addresses, you can put the exact number in. I actually tried putting the disc in the CLS, but of course it did not work. So clearly MB can do better, the question is why haven't they?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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I actually tried putting the disc in the CLS, but of course it did not work.
man, you'e brave.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Also why is there no touch screen. I got so use to my clarion nice that when I got my s I was pressing the screen. I felt like an idiot. Hell even my brother in law 300c has door to door.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Also why is there no touch screen. I got so use to my clarion nice that when I got my s I was pressing the screen. I felt like an idiot. Hell even my brother in law 300c has door to door.

I personally I am not a big fan of touchscreen. I think very good functionality can be achieved using buttons. My mom's lexus is amazing but I don't really think it's because of the touchscreen, it's more that it has a TON of information stored.

one thing all these navs could use is a better processor. The speed is just ridiculously slow. When you click on POI it takes like 20 seconds for the damned list to pop up. Unacceptable!
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