http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwVVcf2KMKk

OMG the fools at Edmunds must be hitting the liqour.

check out at the 1:54 mark

 

Fixed your link its : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwVVcf2KMKk


Your right, that's hillarious, they must be on crack. "The 550 is about $20,000 less and the 63 is no faster or quicker."

 

Thanks for fixing the link..

WTF?

My car is a good full second faster tahn the 550!!!

 

i think they meant its predecessor the 55

 

Ummmmmmm ..... .. . NOT

 

Car and Driver did a test on the 550 and the numbers are pretty impressive.

http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...ecs-page2.html

 

Here is a quote from the following article

To a certain extent, that’s what our numbers show. The CLS63 gets to 60 mph from rest in a blistering 4.1 seconds, a tenth quicker than the CLS55, but is identical otherwise up to 120 mph and shares a 12.6-second quarter-mile time.

http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...cls63-amg.html

 

Looks like some of the speed in comparo to the 63 comes from the curb weight, 4142lbs a lot less than the 63AMG 1/4 IN 13.30 @ 107--- 0-60MPH in 4.7 sec..not to shabby.

The AMG63 is 1 helluva gorgeous car

 

There 5-60mph time was 5.0sec, they likely got that mixed with the 0-60...

 

I have to agree to edmunds, juice. you paid 25k more for wearing a factory installed amg badge. you know you can get one on ebay for $25 bucks right?

 

Actually the rolling 5-60mph is always slower, Car&driver got the CLS63 0-60 in 4.1 & 5-60 in 4.4

 

........I don't think that the CLS550 is faster than CLS63, but the difference is not as wide as you might think. One open secret is the performance of the 550 engines. Nearly 400HP and 400LBFT of torque in a car that weighs less than the equivalent 63. An E550 for instance is faster than a W210 E55. Both are low 13sec 1/4 mile cars. The CLS63 is complicated to lunch with the car programmed to start in second gear. I can see the 550 and the 63 having pretty close 1/4 mile times, with the 63 being faster occassionally depending on what gear it launches from. My point is not to say that the 63 is slow, but more to say that the E550 and the CL550 are pretty fast. Someone should throw a blower on one of these and see.

Ted

 

more likely the 550 w/lower compression .

 

A simple mistake by Edmunds, the CLS63 AMG is of course faster than the CLS550. This can be proven with even the most average drivers at the wheel of both cars.

M

 

definately not

 

My car starts in 1st.....all the time

 

the e/cls 550 are high 4 sec 0-60 cars, the 63's are low 4 sec cars

big difference



the 550's are fast as ****, they are as fast as my clk55 was, and can do 4.8 to 60, 4.7 is pushing it, but hten again c&d always has the fastest times
they got a 209 55 to 60 in 4.5

 

...........happy for you. Most 63's DO NOT start in 1st gear.

AMG_55, 0-60 times are gradually becomming obsolete. This is because as the HP wars result in creation of cars with HP in the stratosphere, traction from a dig dictates 0-60 times. For instance, the published 0-60 time for the SL65 is 4.2 secs. Of course the SL65 is not slower than the E63. Races run over a longer distance such as 1/4 mile are more useful. Sometimes to compensate for this, cars are run fr0m 5-60 instead of 0-60.

Ted

 

I think the gearing prefers the 0-60 times because in the 0-100km/h or other tests here in Europe there is no comparison.

E63 is much quicker and so is the E55.

By the way here the E500 is the same as the E550 there.

Mercedes-Benz E 500 Elegance - 2006 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 5461 ccm
Aufladung Sauger/Euro 4
PS - UMin 388 PS (285 kW) - 6000/Min
Nm - UMin 530 Nm - 2800/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 7/Automatik
Test in ams 12/2006
Gewicht 1835 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,4 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,4 s
0 - 130 km/h 8,4 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,3 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,6 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,4 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 38 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs - min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
Querbeschleunigung - g
Slalom 18 m 60,9 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 131,1 km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 8,2/16,3/13,9 L/SB
Grundpreis 62.582 Euro (05/2006)
Testwagenpreis - Euro

Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG W211 Limousine - 2006 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 6208 ccm
Aufladung Sauger/Euro 4
PS - UMin 514 PS (378 kW) - 6800/Min
Nm - UMin 630 Nm - 5200/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 7/Automatik
Test in ams 16/2006
Gewicht 1935 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,7 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,9 s
0 - 120 km/h 6,6 s
0 - 130 km/h 7,5 s
0 - 140 km/h 8,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 10,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 13,5 s
0 - 200 km/h 16,5 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 39 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs - min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
Querbeschleunigung - g
Slalom 18 m 62,2 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 110 m 138,0 km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 11,0/22,3/16,5 L/SP
Grundpreis 95.468 Euro (07/2006)
Testwagenpreis - Euro


Mercedes E55 AMG - 2003 (Serie)


Motorart V 8
Hubraum 5439 ccm
Aufladung Kompressor
PS - UMin 476 PS - 6100/Min
Nm - UMin 700 Nm - 2650/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 38,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 38,3 m
Nordschleife - min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.18,0 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,05 g
Slalom 18 m 61,5 km/h
Slalom 36 m - km/h
ISO Ausweichtest - km/h
Testverbrauch 20,5 L/SB
Testwagenpreis 99.476 Euro

 

...........after a while all these numbers start getting confusing. In this instance, the Kompressor motor is a full 2secs faster from 0-200km/h than the 63. This is incredible because the 63 is supposed to do better at higher speeds because the kompressor motor is supposed to get heat soaked. So much for that.

Ted

 

it also seems that the 55 is more expensive than the 63! something is wrong here!

 

I agree.

any 63 car or even 55k car that does not committ to a race with a 550 will loose.

Example:

E550 or CLS550 at full WOT 100%

vs

Casual AMG driver at 75% throttle.. thinking that he can over take with 100hp and 70lbs of torque.

advantage : E550.

my point: the difference is not as large as it used to be. You stall from a dig or you give them .5 sec start and the AMG will have to work hard to reel the 550 back.

same applies with a BMW 550.

 

The 63 is better at higher speeds, On the street Ive smoked 3 55s (E&cls) already. As well as on the track. I posted those vids on the E forum...

 

i do understand what youre saying and i do agree with you. however, in this instance i dont think either car is running traction limited times, unlike the 65's and some 55's. the 63's arent that hard to launch

 

If those numbers are accurate then I assume the E550 performance will range in the mid 4secs. but its hard to believe. I'm sure the new E550s hit the 0-60mph at 4.8-5.0 sec range now I think that's fast enough. E63 or CLS63 is a whole different league.