C219 CLS55 and CLS63, 2004-2010

Aston Martin

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Nov 14, 2008 | 03:16 PM
  #1  
HouTxCLS55's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Houston TX
06 CLS55 AMG & 08 CL65 Mystic White
Question Aston Martin

I love the looks of aston martin line up but will the preformance be a let down? That is compaired to the CLS55 AMG.

Any feedback from current or past owners would be great!
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:10 PM
  #2  
Improviz's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,679
Likes: 0
CLS55 AMG
Originally Posted by HouTxCLS55
I love the looks of aston martin line up but will the preformance be a let down? That is compaired to the CLS55 AMG.

Any feedback from current or past owners would be great!
Well, in terms of absolute acceleration the only one that I'm aware of that's a threat to the CLS55 is the DBS. Road & Track tested one recently and ran 4.2 0-60, and a 12.4 @ 117.7 1/4 mile, right there with the CLS55 but with a bit better trap speed, indicating better pull up in triple digit range.

But in looks, oh man, that thing is just pure sex on wheels. Always been one of my absolute favorites. And with that in mind, even though the DB9 and Vantage V8 models aren't as quick, they sure are beautiful to look at!
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:35 PM
  #3  
bfnnrgn's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,498
Likes: 1
From: Dallas
SL65
Originally Posted by HouTxCLS55
I love the looks of aston martin line up but will the preformance be a let down? That is compaired to the CLS55 AMG.

Any feedback from current or past owners would be great!
If you're a power junkie you'll be disappointed. It's an image car, nothing else.
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2008 | 09:31 AM
  #4  
HouTxCLS55's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Houston TX
06 CLS55 AMG & 08 CL65 Mystic White
Thanks for the great feedback. I had a feeling that would be the answer. It's hard to pay that much and not get the preformance to go with the car.
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2008 | 11:02 AM
  #5  
Improviz's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,679
Likes: 0
CLS55 AMG
Originally Posted by HouTxCLS55
Thanks for the great feedback. I had a feeling that would be the answer. It's hard to pay that much and not get the preformance to go with the car.
Well, no, that's not all you get; you get the Aston Martin quality...um, err, ah, reliability...no, um, ah, resale value...umm, well, OK, you get the looks!!

I jest (well, in part...), though...it's just simply one of the most gorgeous cars out on the road, full stop...but for the price, the V8 Vantage should be a bit faster imo. They prolly don't want it to serve as a "viable" alternative to the DB series, and so neuter its performance. A pity...
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 07:04 PM
  #6  
Exotic-metal55's Avatar
PLATINUM SPONSOR
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,834
Likes: 65
From: Texas
2003 CL55
AM`s are not that powerfull. The interior is horrible IMO. Body design is nice but I would take a CLS55 anyday over a AM.
__________________



E63 Biturbo, UPD Cold Air induction kit, UPD performance crank pulley and UPD adjustable rear suspension with ride height adjustment.

CL55 UPD Cold Air Boost kit, UPD 3000 stall converter, UPD 77mm SC clutched pulley and beltwrap kit, Custom long tubes, UPD crank pulley , UPD suspension kit, UPD SC pulley, Aux. HE, Trunk tank w/rule 2000 pump, Mezeire pump, UPD 5pc idler set, Aluminum rotor hats.

www.ultimatepd.com
instagram @ultimate_pd
facebook.com/ultimatepd
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:31 AM
  #7  
blackcls63's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 383
Likes: 4
From: Los Angeles, California
07 CLS63 | 06 SLK350
wow good to know, i was always a sucker for the DB9's, but I didn't know they were looks only! ..
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 03:51 AM
  #8  
MercedesFTW's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,259
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Cee Fiddy Five
I would hardly call it looks only...
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes Teases Updated EQS With Steer-By-Wire and a Yoke

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

8 Mercedes Models With Poor Reliability Records

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:59 AM
  #9  
isellpower's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
2003 SRT10
You gotta laugh at any AMG owner poking fun at the resale value of the AM's.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:49 AM
  #10  
Improviz's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,679
Likes: 0
CLS55 AMG
Originally Posted by isellpower
You gotta laugh at any AMG owner poking fun at the resale value of the AM's.
You've gotta laugh at ignorant trolls who don't know a thing they're talking about and cite Ebay as "THE" yardstick by which one should measure automobile prices.

For those who are unfamiliar with this troll: basically all he's done (11 or so out of 14 total posts) since joining here is troll the E and CLS forums telling any prospective purchasers/sellers that the prices they're asking/thinking of paying are too high, and that one could find a nice example on Ebay for far less...uh, yeah, if one wants to get a below-average example, they can pay a below-average price. Thank you for the revelation, "isellpower", really. Because honestly, nobody here knew that...we all thought that all CLS55s were priced right at the average, regardless of any of the factors which go into pricing a vehicle. This is because we are all stupid.

This blather is basically nothing but nonsense, either ignorant of or deliberately ignoring the facts that condition, options, mileage, number of owners, modifications, and accident history affect a vehicle's value, that auction prices do NOT equal retail prices and are NOT a good yardstick for value determination without knowing the condition of a vehicle being auctioned, and that all vehicles from a particular year will NOT be a single datapoint, but rather a scatter plot (look it up), from which one can determine useful data like a mean, standard deviation (look them up), etc., as I did this weekend on each and every CLS55 AMG on both Autotrader and Cars.com.

And if you want to argue about it, please: repost in the other thread and we'll continue when I get home tonight, because I've got data that shows just how totally ignorant and full of it you are.

Now then, wrt Aston Martin pricing: a quick search on your beloved Autotrader shows that you can find 2005 V12 Vanquish models right now between $139 and $178K. But it's more meaningful statistically to look at the average, which is $162K. That's a hit of pert near $100K in three years, and these cars have 15K miles or less. And most of them are 10K or less.

That's a hit of 38% in three years. Now, how do you think that stacks up to the average asking price of all 2005 CLS55 AMGs with under 15K miles, percentage wise?

Here's a hint: it's worse, and I've got the data to prove it.

Compare their prices to a 2005 Ferrari F430, an example of an exotic that holds its value like an exotic. And that's the thing: a Vanquish is an exotic, not a luxury sedan. But it doesn't hold its value like one.

Which you would know if you actually spent time researching depreciation and price points in places other than Fleabay. And again: if you want to debate this further, by all means, re-engage in the other thread, and I'll be happy to share actual data to refute the bluster of your blather.

Last edited by Improviz; Nov 17, 2008 at 04:19 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:05 PM
  #11  
bigben320e's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 9
From: Blasting off!
CLS63 Designo Edition, Hyundai Genesis 3.8 , Veloster Turbo, CLS500(Sold), E320 (SMOKED) R500 (Sold)
Originally Posted by Improviz
You've gotta laugh at ignorant trolls who don't know a thing they're talking about and cite Ebay as "THE" yardstick by which one should measure automobile prices.

For those who are unfamiliar with this troll: basically all he's done (11 or so out of 14 total posts) since joining here is troll the E and CLS forums telling any prospective purchasers/sellers that the prices they're asking/thinking of paying are too high, and that one could find a nice example on Ebay for far less...uh, yeah, if one wants to get a below-average example, they can pay a below-average price. Thank you for the revelation, "isellpower", really. Because honestly, nobody here knew that...we all thought that all CLS55s were priced right at the average, regardless of any of the factors which go into pricing a vehicle. This is because we are all stupid.

This blather is basically nothing but nonsense, either ignorant of or deliberately ignoring the facts that condition, options, mileage, number of owners, modifications, and accident history affect a vehicle's value, that auction prices do NOT equal wholesale and are NOT a good yardstick without knowing the condition of a vehicle, and that all vehicles from a particular year will NOT be a single datapoint, but rather a scatter plot (look it up), from which one can determine useful data like a mean, standard deviation (look them up), etc., as I did this weekend on each and every CLS55 AMG on both Autotrader and Cars.com.

And if you want to argue about it, please: repost in the other thread and we'll continue when I get home tonight, because I've got data that shows just how totally ignorant and full of it you are.

Now then, wrt Aston Martin pricing: a quick search on your beloved Autotrader shows that you can find 2005 V12 Vanquish models right now between $139 and $160K. But it's more meaningful statistically to look at the average, which is $162K. That's a hit of pert near $100K in three years, and these cars have 15K miles or less. And most of them are 10K or less.

That's a hit of 38% in three years. Now, how do you think that stacks up to the average asking price of all 2005 CLS55 AMGs with under 15K miles, percentage wise?

Here's a hint: it's worse, and I've got the data to prove it.

Compare their prices to a 2005 Ferrari F430, an example of an exotic that holds its value like an exotic. And that's the thing: a Vanquish is an exotic, not a luxury sedan. But it doesn't hold its value like one.

Which you would know if you actually spent time researching depreciation and price points in places other than Fleabay. And again: if you want to debate this further, by all means, re-engage in the other thread, and I'll be happy to share actual data to refute the bluster of your blather.

I think his balloon has been popped.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:36 PM
  #12  
blackcls63's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 383
Likes: 4
From: Los Angeles, California
07 CLS63 | 06 SLK350
Originally Posted by bigben320e
I think his balloon has been popped.
he's going to go cry to mommy now
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 03:36 PM
  #13  
HouTxCLS55's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Houston TX
06 CLS55 AMG & 08 CL65 Mystic White
Thanks for all the feedback and then some.... AM are beautiful but I think just like any high priced ride. Buy it after someone else drives it off the lot.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:04 PM
  #14  
bigben320e's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 9
From: Blasting off!
CLS63 Designo Edition, Hyundai Genesis 3.8 , Veloster Turbo, CLS500(Sold), E320 (SMOKED) R500 (Sold)
Originally Posted by HouTxCLS55
Thanks for all the feedback and then some.... AM are beautiful but I think just like any high priced ride. Buy it after someone else drives it off the lot.

Exactly, let someone else foot the bill for a year.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:25 PM
  #15  
W211 BEAST's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,230
Likes: 1
From: Los Angeles, California
2006 E55 BEAST
I actually think they are very nice cars, especially the interior.

But they are nothing more than status cars. Nothing more than a look. There are many nice/comfortable cars that you can get for the same price that will blow the pretty doors right off an AM. If you're looking for speed/performance, this isnt your car.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 05:24 PM
  #16  
finiteyoda's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
2006 CLS55, 2006 Lotus Elise
Performance-wise, I didn't think the Aston's are that much slower than a CLS55. I've not driven a DB9 but its weight, HP are on par with the AMG. The top gear power lap for CLS55 was 1:26.9, and 1:27.1 for the DB9 and old Vanquish, that doesn't seem a huge difference to me. The new DBS is at 1:23.9, that seems a lot faster than the CLS (I've no doubt the CLS could keep up in a drag race though).

Granted, Aston's (which are based on a pretty old platform by this point) are not the tweaked performance beasts that modern day Porsches, Lamborghini's, or Ferrari's are. And even some of those cars are being handed their lunch by relatively cheap Nissan's and Corvette's, which fill the super-bargain-performance segment. But I thought that's the whole point, they don't try to be those things, they're more of a long-distance driving GT car. It'd be better to compare them to a Ferrari 612, or a Bentley Continental GT. I think then the looks, pricing, performance as a whole make a bit more sense.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:50 PM
  #17  
traumadoc's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,358
Likes: 40
From: Pinehurst, NC
2022 AMG SL 63. 2021 APR stage 1 Audi SQ7.
I drove one....

I was never happier to get back in my AMG.

Looks 10

Build quality, performance and interior were just OK. It seemed to make a lot of noise (nice noise albeit) but not a lot of thrust.

I really did not enjoy driving it. I was sort of having to wrestle with it. Not nimble.

Although the Bentley did not compare on the looks scale nor the exaust note, the build, performance, interior and drivability won out.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:13 PM
  #18  
DucatiNut's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
CLS55 plus a few Ducati's
Quote;

"isellpower You gotta laugh at any AMG owner poking fun at the resale value of the AM's."

What the F !
Unfortunately most current performance cars from the UK don't really hold their value very well and AM's are one of them. IMHO they are beautifully styled and nicely finished but the market just doesn't want them as much and thus the large depreciation rates. I am sure a good used vehicle is great value but I wouldn't buy a new one unless money was just as big a toy. It would be interesting to study the depreciation as a % of sale value but there are too many variables to be accurate.
Improviz ....... couldn't have said it better, especially with the statistics tidbits thrown in. Clearly he is using an inferential statistical model with a data set of 1. He probably thinks he is at the center of his own normal distribution .... but in reality has severely deviated from the mean.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:51 PM
  #19  
Zytek_Fan's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: Idaho
1992 300E
The V8 Vantage is pretty brilliant, and the price isn't bad.

And you have to consider the NOISE
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:04 PM
  #20  
moparrbust's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas
2005 Crossfire SRT-6
I like the looks of the new Vantage(but not the power) and REALLY like the looks of the new DBS. We had a DBS and a Vanquish S in the shop last week and my hands down new favorite Aston is the DBS. It looks and sounds incredible and has the trademark 12* rising doors which is a cool feature most don't know about.

Now as far as owning an Aston I don't think I would ever buy one because of their price, lack of reliability, maintenance costs($750 oil change for the DB9) and many other things. I personally know of two people that bought DB9's and sold them very quickly.........one with 197miles on the odod and the other with about 2400 miles. They are different cars for different people.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:04 PM
  #21  
Improviz's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,679
Likes: 0
CLS55 AMG
Originally Posted by DucatiNut
Clearly he is using an inferential statistical model with a data set of 1. He probably thinks he is at the center of his own normal distribution .... but in reality has severely deviated from the mean.
Lol! Nicely punned!!
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:16 PM
  #22  
bigben320e's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 9
From: Blasting off!
CLS63 Designo Edition, Hyundai Genesis 3.8 , Veloster Turbo, CLS500(Sold), E320 (SMOKED) R500 (Sold)
Originally Posted by moparrbust
I like the looks of the new Vantage(but not the power) and REALLY like the looks of the new DBS. We had a DBS and a Vanquish S in the shop last week and my hands down new favorite Aston is the DBS. It looks and sounds incredible and has the trademark 12* rising doors which is a cool feature most don't know about.

Now as far as owning an Aston I don't think I would ever buy one because of their price, lack of reliability, maintenance costs($750 oil change for the DB9) and many other things. I personally know of two people that bought DB9's and sold them very quickly.........one with 197miles on the odod and the other with about 2400 miles. They are different cars for different people.
Damn, that seems pretty awful stats.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:52 AM.

story-0
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-2
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-3
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-5
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes Teases Updated EQS With Steer-By-Wire and a Yoke

Slideshow: The 2027 update adds a fully digital steering system, revised styling, and potential charging upgrades as the company looks to revive interest in the luxury EV.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-04 10:24:38


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Mercedes Models With Poor Reliability Records

Slideshow: From problematic air suspensions to early dual-clutch transmission issues, these specific models and years stand out as the least dependable modern Mercedes vehicles.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-26 18:08:10


VIEW MORE